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01-17-2013, 02:19 PM #37
Re: Joe Flacco's price has certainly gone up.
I was fascinated by the conversation about Flacco's deep throwing tendencies, so I did some research on it for the 2012 season (including playoffs). Passes are qualified as either "short" or "deep" in the official play-by-play, so this is based on those classifications of each pass:
Deep Left: 13/43, 337 Yards, 4 TD, 0 INT --> 30.2%, 7.8 Y/A, 90.9 QB Rating
Deep Middle: 16/35, 470 Yards, 3 TD, 1 INT --> 45.7%, 13.4 Y/A, 108.9 QB Rating
Deep Right: 30/59, 992 Yards, 8 TD, 1 INT --> 50.8%, 16.8 Y/A, 129.1 QB Rating
Deep All: 59/137, 1799 Yards, 15 TD, 2 INT --> 43.1%, 13.1 Y/A, 120.5 QB Rating
Pass Interference / Illegal Contact Penalties Drawn
Deep Left: 1 For 30 Yards
Deep Middle: 1 For 15 Yards
Deep Right: 6 For 135 Yards
Deep All: 8 For 180 Yards
And just for kicks, here is the comparison with Tom Brady:
Deep Left: 15/48, 452 Yards, 4 TD, 1 INT --> 31.3%, 9.4 Y/A, 86.5 QB Rating
Deep Middle: 14/33, 391 Yards, 4 TD, 1 INT --> 42.4%, 11.8 Y/A, 113.8 QB Rating
Deep Right: 10/38, 306 Yards, 2 TD, 3 INT --> 26.3%, 8.1 Y/A, 45.3 QB Rating
Deep All: 39/119, 1149 Yards, 10 TD, 5 INT --> 32.8%, 9.7 Y/A, 80.1 QB Rating
Pass Interference / Illegal Contact Penalties Drawn
Deep Left: 2 For 31 Yards
Deep Middle: 1 For 38 Yards
Deep Right: 4 For 90 Yards
Deep All: 7 For 159 Yards
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01-17-2013, 02:22 PM #38Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Joe Flacco's price has certainly gone up.
i defended him as one of the better deep ball QBs in the league which these numbers would seem to support. Im not sure who else would have over a 120 rating on deep passes. Any chance you have Rodgers numbers? I believe most say hes the best when arguing that Flacco isnt good at all.
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01-17-2013, 02:40 PM #41
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01-17-2013, 02:55 PM #42
Re: Joe Flacco's price has certainly gone up.
Drew Brees while ur at it... I think he's got the best deep ball stats, last i checkd at least
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01-17-2013, 02:56 PM #43
Re: Joe Flacco's price has certainly gone up.
Turns out I had a moment to get this info for you, but I didn't bother looking up penalty yards this time.... Here it is:
Aaron Rodgers
Deep Left: 9/27, 218 Yards, 3 TD, 0 INT --> 33.3%, 8.1 Y/A, 100.5 QB Rating
Deep Middle: 12/25, 341 Yards, 4 TD, 3 INT --> 48%, 13.6 Y/A, 94.2 QB Rating
Deep Right: 26/52, 850 Yards, 8 TD, 1 INT --> 50%, 16.3 Y/A, 127.4 QB Rating
Deep All: 47/104, 1409 Yards, 15 TD, 4 INT --> 45.2%, 13.5 Y/A, 115.4 QB Rating
This is... remarkably similar to Joe's numbers! Comparing them... Flacco's stat first, then Rodgers', better number italicized:
Completion Percentage: 43.1% < 45.2%
Yards Per Attempt: 13.1 < 13.5
Yards: 1799 > 1409
TDs: 15 = 15
INTs: 2 > 4
QB Rating: 120.5 > 115.4
Very close in nearly every regard, but Flacco's got the slight edge on him.
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01-17-2013, 02:56 PM #44
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01-17-2013, 03:18 PM #45
Re: Joe Flacco's price has certainly gone up.
Alright, got some time to do this one as well:
Drew Brees
Deep Left: 14/35, 433 Yards, 4 TD, 3 INT --> 40%, 12.4 Y/A, 89.3 QB Rating
Deep Middle: 22/39, 681 Yards, 4 TD, 4 INT --> 56.4%, 17.5 Y/A, 95.8 QB Rating
Deep Right: 16/33, 459 Yards, 4 TD, 0 INT --> 48.5%, 13.9 Y/A, 134.2 QB Rating
Deep All: 52/107, 1573 Yards, 12 TD, 7 INT --> 48.6%, 14.7 Y/A, 104.8 QB Rating
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01-17-2013, 03:19 PM #46Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Joe Flacco's price has certainly gone up.
So can we put this tendency to the right side thing to bed now?
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01-17-2013, 03:20 PM #47
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01-17-2013, 03:30 PM #48
Re: Joe Flacco's price has certainly gone up.
I was curious to compare him to some other greats. I don't know how much further I'm going to go, if you want to see anybody else, let me know, but for now I figured I'd compare him with Peyton Manning as well:
Peyton Manning
Deep Left: 23/40, 656 Yards, 5 TD, 0 INT --> 57.5%, 16.4 Y/A, 141.7 QB Rating
Deep Middle: 11/25, 302 Yards, 2 TD, 1 INT --> 44%, 12.1 Y/A, 99.1 QB Rating
Deep Right: 18/42, 500 Yards, 3 TD, 5 INT --> 42.9%, 11.9 Y/A, 71.6 QB Rating
Deep All: 52/107, 1458 Yards, 10 TD, 6 INT --> 48.6%, 13.6 Y/A, 102.5 QB Rating
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