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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...



    Quote Originally Posted by CincyCat View Post
    I always hear rumors about cap issues, but as GOTA said I'll believe it when I see it".
    Wasn't this year proof enough? They were clearly talent deficient with a lack of depth. Sure Roethlisberger missed a few games, but he came back and the team was still bad.




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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by s.r.genovese View Post
    Wasn't this year proof enough? They were clearly talent deficient with a lack of depth. Sure Roethlisberger missed a few games, but he came back and the team was still bad.
    their D was #1




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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    their D was #1
    Good for them. The team was 8-8.




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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by s.r.genovese View Post
    Wasn't this year proof enough? They were clearly talent deficient with a lack of depth. Sure Roethlisberger missed a few games, but he came back and the team was still bad.
    Agreed, but any team can have a bad season. They are like DiNiro in Cape Fear, they have to be killed off completely before I can say they won't be in the running for a while.




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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    They have let a lot of aging guys go, or guys that played well for them but wanted too much money. How many LBs have they been through over the last 10 years? Joey Porter, Kendrell Bell, etc.
    LBs are mostly replaceable. Would they let a Polamalu or a Heath Milller go?




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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uli2001 View Post
    LBs are mostly replaceable. Would they let a Polamalu or a Heath Milller go?
    Hair, yes I'd let him go. He's always hurt and the fans can just get over it like they do everywhere else. Miller I'd keep around unless his cap number is prohibitive and if it is, he can walk too. They can't keep pushing contracts into next year
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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    their D was #1
    Yes it was...and their offense was bottom 1/3 of the league.

    Recall the owner stepped in and demanded that Tomlin get rid of Arians...they went with Haley and it basically back-fired on them.

    I am not counting them out...but they have a lot of issues to deal with this off-season.




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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    their D was #1
    And see how they finished. Stats are over rated, the team that scores the most points in the game is all that matters. Br did not help in that area, with his intercepted passes. Can't wait to see BR play again this year, bet he is mediocre at best. Him and haley have issues(it really is BR offense you know).




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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Their offense was clicking early in the year when BR was healthy. It was down the stretch that killed them and when he came back he was the defense' best friend. If they can fix that the offense will be ok
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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    stoolers O:
    qb - check
    rb - check
    wr - check
    te - check
    OL - sucks

    Stoolers D:
    #1

    so if they can somehow fix the o line and push money to 2014/2015 they should be a playoff contender next year with healthy big ben...then they will be forced to BLOW it up after next year




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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    stoolers O:
    qb - check
    If healthy, yes
    rb - check
    If by "check" you mean completely mediocre, then yes. Mendenhall's a bust, Rainey is gone, Redman and Dwyer are pretty average.
    wr - check
    Who replaces Wallace? Will Brown or Saunders be as effective when they start to draw double-teams? Very unlikely their receiver productivity doesn't drop off once he leaves.
    te - check
    OL - sucks
    Yes and yes

    Stoolers D:
    #1
    #6 in points allowed. Also older than dirt at most positions, and almost certain to lose a couple key players as cap casualties.

    so if they can somehow fix the o line and push money to 2014/2015 they should be a playoff contender next year with healthy big ben...then they will be forced to BLOW it up after next year
    How much would it cost to upgrade their O-line, mortgage more of their future with several more restructures, then hope and pray everything else falls in place (BR and the D stay healthy, the WRs step up, Dwyer emerges, etc....) and all for what? A one-year reprieve, and then have to blow the whole damn thing up in 2014 anyway?
    Their FO is smarter than that.
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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by pslholder96 View Post
    I'm in the same boat. I never count out the Steelers. They'll find a way to contend again.
    Well they've been for the last two years moving money back to only delay the inevitable, but it sounds like they are at the end of that road. Age has also caught up with them, as well as some poor drafts in recent years.




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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    There are just some realities they are going to have to face. Given Ben's style of play and the reality that we all expected him to begin breaking down soon, why should they expect him to stay healthy? Why should they expect some of their veteran defenders to stay healthy?

    They should have moved two years ago, but stubbornly tried to bring the same group back. Everyone else in the division went younger, except for them. The Ravens may have Ed Reed playing with one arm and may have had Ray Lewis miss a significant portion of the season, but they still won the division on ten games and are back in the AFC Championship Game (Although, that is partly due to Lewis).

    The Ravens have an offensive line that stays relatively healthy. Pittsburgh's offensive line seems to stay hurt. The Ravens have a QB who has not missed a game. Pittsburgh has a QB who is now missing game annually. The Ravens have two quality RBs right now. Pittsburgh might have Dwyer, but their guys struggle to stay healthy and put the ball on the ground (Not that Rice didn't fumble twice in the Wildcard game).

    They have a speed demon in Mike Wallace, but a guy who isn't always looking for contact, when it comes to blocking, going over the middle or making a play on the ball in tight coverage. The Ravens have an up and comer in Torrey Smith who handles all of those responsibilities a little better. So, while he may not be as fast as Wallace, His acceleration and intangibles still make him a comparable player, who is on the rise.

    That's just the offensive side of the ball.
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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    Pittsburgh has been through a very regular pattern this millennium, missing the playoffs every three years: 2000, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2012.
    I saw this myself the other day when people were bitching about Harbaugh. Its really saying something when a perennial SB contender cannot even make the playoffs 3 years in a row and we have fans that complain about 5 years with at least one win not being good enough. The Steelers are looking at us now and saying they want to be as consistent as we are.
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    Re: Steelers blowing the whole thing up...

    The Steelers are going to have to do a cap purge...and that is going to mean cutting guys that they may not want to cut (Troy P...Ryan Clark...Ike Taylor...) and build through the draft. They're not going to have any money to work with in free agency.
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