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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.



    Quote Originally Posted by dandrews View Post
    Correct. You would need both the degree of the launch and the radius of the full circle (ie the peak height of the ball). The angle would be easy to figure out with a replay and a protractor. I don't think there's anyway to measure the peak height, though.
    Probably ~45 degrees.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimoreboy View Post
    I also thought the first one to Torrey dropped right in there.
    I agree. It was pretty smooth, Torrey didn't have to do much to bring it in.

    The bomb at the end though...I mean...I'm still speechless.

    Just the events that transpired, the facts of the situation. No timeouts. The way Flacco had to wiggle through and step up...the OL giving him the time to even do that...the distance the ball traveled...

    Simply amazing.

    I heard a radio caller name it the "F Bomb". I think that is a fitting name.

    It was thrown by Flacco. It made Denver fans yell "F*ck!", and it made me yell "F*ck YEAH!!"




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    I heard a radio caller name it the "F Bomb". I think that is a fitting name.

    It was thrown by Flacco. It made Denver fans yell "F*ck!", and it made me yell "F*ck YEAH!!"
    Perfect! Start spreading it.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland of Gilead View Post
    I assumed the ball traveled 54 yards forward and 24 yards to the right (approximately the distance from the hashmark to the sideline). I used the Pythagorean theorem (a^2 + b^2 = c^2) to give a real distance of 59 yards.
    This is the correct approach for distance traveled along the ground. 24 seems like a reasonable guess for horizontal distance so 59 is probably just about right.

    The arc formula mentioned in an earlier post assumes a circular arc. A thrown ball will have a more elongated trajectory on the way up, but it will come down more steeply since it loses lateral velocity due to air resistance. It still may be good enough for an approximate answer, but to do it right you'll probably need some physics and calculus. Yuck!




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Height's a little tough to tell.
    35' maybe?
    The ball is hidden behind the Team/score banner for awhile as the camera follows it.

    First get a glimpse here under the "4th";





    Above the bronco nose



    I should make a few gif's




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    I love that he dropped it in there like a punt, which is perfect for Jones, who is a not-the-most-assured receiver, but quite good as a punt/kick returner. Smith or Boldin might've been able to make a contested catch, although Boldin wouldn't have gotten as far downfield (not to mention open), and Smith would've been the obvious choice and even Moore would've probably figured out to play over the top on a deep route from Smith. It was a perfect play. Moore isn't out of position because he's a total dumbass. He's watching Smith down the left sideline, Boldin and Pitta toward the middle, and just got juked by a guy who had good speed but hadn't caught a pass all day.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Cactus View Post
    The arc formula mentioned in an earlier post assumes a circular arc. A thrown ball will have a more elongated trajectory on the way up, but it will come down more steeply since it loses lateral velocity due to air resistance. It still may be good enough for an approximate answer, but to do it right you'll probably need some physics and calculus. Yuck!
    Linky for calculating a trajectory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajectory

    Good luck with this one! I'm not gonna attempt it.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Keep in mind to that Flacco started moving up in the pocket. That draws the defense forward in case Joe decided to run. Even Jacoby slowed down because no one thought Joe would throw that ball. Flacco's pocket presense also helped set this up.

    Still, it was one of the best throws I've ever seen.

    Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2
    Bingo. If you and many others can figure that out why can't these highly paid 6 and 7 figure analyst do the same?

    Fucking joke.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post

    I heard a radio caller name it the "F Bomb". I think that is a fitting name.

    It was thrown by Flacco. It made Denver fans yell "F*ck!", and it made me yell "F*ck YEAH!!"
    I like that better than the Mile High Miracle. I will add this to name thread and give you credit.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Tell me how long the ball was in the air, as accurate as possible, and I'll tell give you my best guess as to how far it traveled.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimoreboy View Post
    Height's a little tough to tell.
    35' maybe?

    God, so hard to tell with angles, foreshortening, etc... but I'm guessing at least 40ft.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by CptJesus View Post
    Tell me how long the ball was in the air, as accurate as possible, and I'll tell give you my best guess as to how far it traveled.
    I get 96 frames on the player with a frame rate of 29.970628.

    Comes out to about 3.2 seconds.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by alienrace View Post
    That throw was about as perfect as one can throw the ball 60 yards in the air, on the run. No other QB in the NFL could have made that throw, that distance, with that much air under it and not even being able to fully step into his throw.

    That is why is was completed. Moore had no idea that the ball could be thrown that far, and it surprised him.
    This was exactly my assessment of it. Moore was the goat, but I think he wouldn't have been the only one, in a similar situation, to make the same mistake. That ball just never seemed to lose trajectory. Sorta like a ball that keeps carrying over a centerfielders head.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    It was a perfect throw. All the kvetching about Moore misplaying the ball ignores that Jones misplayed it as well. I mentioned it on another thread.

    Jones turns his body so he's facing the defender, which would have given Moore a chance to get his arm in there if he'd played Jones instead of trying to play the ball. I don't blame Jones- I don't know that he's capable of making the over-the-shoulder catch like we saw Boldin do against the Irsays- but it is what it is. The way Flacco threw that ball, if Jones plays it right the only chance either DB has of stopping the catch is to interfere with Jones. That ball nearly dropped straight down into his arms. That's awful tough to defend.

    If there's another QB in the league capable of making that throw, I haven't seen him do it.




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    Re: The Arc on Joe's ball.

    Ran a couple of calculations. Using 3.2 seconds as the hang time (which is what I calculated with a stop watch, but someone else just verified) and the 59 yards traveled estimate, I calculated an initial velocity of the throw at 23.02 meters/second (which is roughly 52 mph). Using that, I got a 42.92 degree launch angle. Also, the peak height came out to be 12.5 meters (13.7 yards).

    If anyone has any theories as to how to use these numbers to get a distance of a curve, feel free. I have no idea.
    Last edited by dandrews; 01-14-2013 at 04:11 PM. Reason: F'd up some of my calculations
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