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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?



    As Morgan Freeman says, the best way to get rid of racism is to stop talking about it. People like Michael Irvin are just propagating racism by talking about it.




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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    As Morgan Freeman says, the best way to get rid of racism is to stop talking about it. People like Michael Irvin are just propagating racism by talking about it.
    Bingo...




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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    As much as white people hate to hear this, there is a difference between white people making a comment like that about a black person, and vice versa. I know that seems unfair, and maybe someday it will be, but right now we live in a world where we white people are vastly over represented in positions of power, wealth, entertainment, and politics. As such, we enjoy something known as "privilege". This is not an opinion that I'm pulling out of the air, it's a well documented sociological concept. Feel free to look it up.

    So yea, a black guy can make a joke about getting shit for wearing a white guy's shirt. Black folks are also the only ones who are allowed to say "nigger" to each other. The relationship between blacks and whites is inherently unequal in this country right now. At some point we may truly live in a post racial society and that won't be true, but for now, it is.

    And if that bothers you, just enjoy the fact that as a white person, you are more likely to be accepted for a loan with identical credit than a black person, more likely to be hired for a managerial position with equal qualifications than a black person, and much less likely to be stopped by the police for a random "stop and frisk" than a black person.

    (Again, those aren't opinions, they're statistical facts that I'm pulling straight from my college sociology texts.)
    Yeah, that's pretty much how it works here too.

    It's just a really sad fact of life that is still true to this day.




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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    As Morgan Freeman says, the best way to get rid of racism is to stop talking about it. People like Michael Irvin are just propagating racism by talking about it.
    Spot on point... And apologist for racist and racially charged comments and actions are just as culpable.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 4G63 View Post
    You talk like a sociology textbook is the pinnacle of a fact based argument when in actuality its incorrect. In fact, I know that equally qualified people for a management position within any local, state, or Federal would go to the African American. Unless you want to point me to an actual credible link backing up your arguments I'll just go with what actually happens in the real world.
    I'm inclined to agree.
    “Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”

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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by HKusp View Post
    While walking around the set wearing a Matt Schaub Jersey and pretending to be Andre Johnson, did he say " the brutha's in Miami are gonna kill me for wearing a white guys Jersey?"

    Really?? What is that bullshit?
    Rob Parker (secretly) approves.




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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4G63 View Post
    You talk like a sociology textbook is the pinnacle of a fact based argument when in actuality its incorrect. In fact, I know that equally qualified people for a management position within any local, state, or Federal would go to the African American. Unless you want to point me to an actual credible link backing up your arguments I'll just go with what actually happens in the real world.
    So he has to post a link to prove his point, but you don't have to?

    We live in a world where the US President's nationality was questioned for years on the basis of his being HALF black. When was the last time anyone questioned a white President's nationality? How's that for equality?




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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhThePossibilities View Post
    Even if he did say it, it's not something to get all butthurt about. All complaining about it really does is make it look like you really wanna say something that would be viewed as kinda racist yourself.
    Agree with this.

    Not to be overly political or racial, but honestly, the last thing this country or world needs is white people, and I am assuming most of the posters here are white (or at the very least that HKusp is white; please correct me if I am wrong), telling everyone else how racist other people are.

    OhThePossibilities' point, I believe, was that considering all the shit and grief that white people have caused for others, it is odd and seems ignorant for whites to complain about the "double standards" they perceive. It does, to some, make it sound like these people are just upset that they don't get to be racist but others can be.




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    More importantly, my view point is supported by simple facts. How many black CEO's in the fortune 500? If things were proportionately representative the answer would be around 60.

    It's actually only 6.

    money.cnn.com/2012/03/22/news/companies/black-ceo/index.htm

    So why is that? If blacks are MORE LIKELY to be promoted or hired with equal qualifications, as was posited, then they would be over represented, but instead they are under represented by a massive margin.
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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhThePossibilities View Post
    So he has to post a link to prove his point, but you don't have to?

    We live in a world where the US President's nationality was questioned for years on the basis of his being HALF black. When was the last time anyone questioned a white President's nationality? How's that for equality?

    You've heard of affirmative action, right? I shouldn't have to link to something that should be common knowledge right now.




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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74 View Post
    Rob Parker (secretly) approves.
    LOL. Well played sir




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    You clearly don't understand how affirmative action actually works, or what it's goal is if you think it results in minorities being over represented at any level.
    My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging. -Hank Aaron




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    Quote Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74 View Post
    Rob Parker (secretly) approves.
    (Jalen Rose gives a cheast pound).
    “Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”

    –Eleanor Roosevelt




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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by akashicrecorder View Post
    Agree with this.

    Not to be overly political or racial, but honestly, the last thing this country or world needs is white people, and I am assuming most of the posters here are white (or at the very least that HKusp is white; please correct me if I am wrong), telling everyone else how racist other people are.

    OhThePossibilities' point, I believe, was that considering all the shit and grief that white people have caused for others, it is odd and seems ignorant for whites to complain about the "double standards" they perceive. It does, to some, make it sound like these people are just upset that they don't get to be racist but others can be.
    That's exactly what I was getting at. Thank you.




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    Re: OT: WTF did Michael Irvin just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by akashicrecorder View Post

    Not to be overly political or racial, but honestly, the last thing this country or world needs is white people.
    Probably the most racist thing I've ever read here at RSR.




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