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Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
Well, it's not impossible, assuming he winds up getting closer to the $6 million/year end of the spectrum versus the $9M/year end. If the Ravens gave him $36 over 6 with a $15 million signing bonus, they could actually structure his contract so that he has a base salary of $1.5 for 2013 with a $2.5 prorated signing bonus. That would make his cap # only $4 million for next year, which is hardly unreasonable for a player who has truthfully been our best player the last 10-12 weeks.
He would see significant cap # increases in 14 and 15, but assuming the Ravens gamble correctly that the salary cap is in for a dramatic boost in 2014, that might not be too bad at all.
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Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
if he signs for 6 million thats great but there arent many 10 sack pass rushers that dont sign for bigger money than that in FA. Below are the OLBs in the top 50.
2 Aldon Smith 19.5
3 Von Miller 18.5
5 Clay Matthews 13.0
9 DeMarcus Ware 11.5
14 Elvis Dumervil 11
14 Anthony Spencer 11
19 Justin Houston 10
21 Shaun Phillips 9.5
23 Tamba Hali 9.0
23 Paul Kruger 9.0
27 Ryan Kerrigan 8.5
29 Robert Mathis 8.0
41 Ahmad Brooks 6.5
46 Akeem Ayers 6.0
46 James Harrison 6.0
he may compare the most to Shaun Phillips who signed 6/31 but six years ago or ahmad brooks who never had more than 7 but 4 seasons of consistent 6 +/- years before his 6/37 he signed this offseason. robert mathis signed for 4/36 this offseason after 4 years of 11.5 or 9.5. I think thats why his agent started there so if its somewhere in between that he falls, its likely to be more than 6 but not 9. 7 or 8 (considering someone will likely reach) is probably more likely than what brooks got, imo.-JAB
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01-14-2013, 03:12 PM #63Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
I'll tell you what he is worth 11pm sunday night.....
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Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
Thanks LD for the great breakdown
Only questions I wonder about is the "bonus" salary cap room we had this year from the Skins/Dallas
1- we are even more squeezed from this years team to next because there is/was hidden wiggle room in the allotment of extra salary cap space to the other teams so the Players Union couldn't bark about overall salary reduction. Dunno how to figure this into my thinking
2- somewhere in the back of my mind I thought their cap penalty was spread over 2 years, anybody know? If so... how much "extra" do we get for next year?at one point of my life I was exactly Pi years old
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Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
Excellent point(s). I had forgotten about the Jerry Jones/Dan Snyder "I'm such a creative owner that I will try to cheat the system because the rules don't apply to me" benefit given to the other 26 or so teams (I believe 4 teams or so weren't penalized, but weren't rewarded with the allocation of that extra money). I don't believe that amount is significant though. It might be $1.2-$1.5 million per team.
Ravor is the person to ask on that. I am trying to become a bit of a salary cap expert, but he is still wayyyyy ahead of me.
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01-14-2013, 03:39 PM #66
Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
Good post JAB. That Mathis contract is scary. He is older and breaking down, whereas Kruger is younger and getting better. After analyzing the Mathis contract (4 yr 36m, 17 guaranteed) I think Kruger might get 9 a year especially if we go all the way. I could see a 5 year/45 million, 20 guaranteed if we win the Super Bowl. I know most people will think that is high, but when you look at some other deals it could happen.
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01-14-2013, 04:05 PM #67Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
Honestly I would hope we would go with Thompson or a combo of Thompson and Reed. We have to remember that the only reason we have Jacoby is because he had a David Reed-like spell of fumbling and Houston gave up on him. And it seems to me that Jacoby's ceiling as a receiver is as a third WR. He does not show the ability that Boldin or Smith have in contesting passes. My guess is that one or more of Doss, Thompson, Reed, and LaQuan can do at least as good at WR as Jacoby.
Don't get me wrong-Jacoby has done a great job for us this year. But returner/3rd or 4th WR is less important a priority than ILB say or DT. Ellebrbe IMO is a much higher priority than Jacoby and if we have to cut Jacoby to sign Ellerbe then so be it.
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01-14-2013, 04:10 PM #68Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
Also, although Kruger seems like a good guy, it is a contract year and him turning it on, getting paid big money, and then coasting isn't outside of the realm of possibilities.
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01-14-2013, 11:38 PM #69
Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
They had the option of taking it all last year or splitting over 2 years. Most teams, the Ravens included, took it all last year because they are now allowed to carry over any unused Cap space from one year to the next. As such, there was no reason not to taking it all then - if there was anything left over, you just carry it forward anyway. Plus, they pretty much needed every penny of it in 2012.
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01-14-2013, 11:53 PM #70
Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
It all comes down to Flacco's contract.
They presently have $108.329M committed to the Cap for 2013, which is for the 42 players that are presently under contract (they signed 5 guys a week or so ago). The Cap is projected to be around $120.9M. They have around $1.2M in 2012 Cap space that they can carry over.
Once the RFAs and EFAs are tendered, and factoring in Ray's retirement, they should be around $6.5M under. They could have more if they don't offer RFA tenders to David Reed and Ramon Harewood (but you are eating into your depth by not doing so). McClellan is a ERFA, not a RFA.
If they can get Flacco signed to a long term deal, that will pretty much eat up that space. If they need to franchise him, they'll need an additional $8.5M to do so. They can get $3.25M in additional Cap space from releasing Bobbie Williams and Matt Birk.
Needless to say, getting Flacco re-signed will make the offseason much, much easier.
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01-15-2013, 12:13 AM #71
Re: Jason La Confora: Kruger looking for 9m/year...
They could certainly do that, but it's got to be a good enough deal for the player to want to give up the shot at being a FA next year. The other concern is giving extensions to Boldin (who turning 33 this coming season) and Leach (who will turn 32).
I could see it more with Leach, since FBs are a bit of a dying breed and he may not get much interest or an offer that pays him as well.
Boldin OTOH would likely be looking for more than just one additional year, which usually means a larger bonus and larger base salaries, because he'd probably have more options on the open market if the team released him. With him, the Ravens leverage is far less, IMO.
With both - and Ed Reed, too - their age is a problem because of the possibility for dead money from any new bonus that you give them.
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01-15-2013, 12:16 AM #72Regular 1st Stringer
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