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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees



    Are you guys totally ignoring what the cold will do to Flacco's passes? I seem to remember he likes to heave the ball deep a couple of times a game. Is he gonna have the same accuracy with the heavy ball? If you don't think the cold will affect the Ravens also, you're more delusional than I thought. What about the Elevation? Did you forget about that? Don't kid yourself - unless the Ravens force beaucoup turnovers, they don't have a chance, and you know it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Haloti92 View Post
    In the 3 playoff games under 40 degrees:

    64/120 for 612 yds, 1 TD / 7 INTs: QB rating of 46.25


    The 3 playoff games (all losses) were: 41-0 at Jets; 24-14 at Patriots; 20-3 at Patriots.
    And in those 3 playoff games, he played for inferior teams as heavy underdogs on the ROAD!

    On Saturday, his team is a heavy favorite at HOME!




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule2 View Post
    Are you guys totally ignoring what the cold will do to Flacco's passes? I seem to remember he likes to heave the ball deep a couple of times a game. Is he gonna have the same accuracy with the heavy ball? If you don't think the cold will affect the Ravens also, you're more delusional than I thought. What about the Elevation? Did you forget about that? Don't kid yourself - unless the Ravens force beaucoup turnovers, they don't have a chance, and you know it.
    I don't think anyone here "knows" that, and please excuse RAVENS fans for finding legitimate reasons to be optimistic about the RAVENS chances this weekend.




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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    Troll alert.
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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule2 View Post
    Are you guys totally ignoring what the cold will do to Flacco's passes? I seem to remember he likes to heave the ball deep a couple of times a game. Is he gonna have the same accuracy with the heavy ball? If you don't think the cold will affect the Ravens also, you're more delusional than I thought. What about the Elevation? Did you forget about that? Don't kid yourself - unless the Ravens force beaucoup turnovers, they don't have a chance, and you know it.
    Don't have a chance? Shuttttt up.




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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by bmoreravengirl View Post
    Troll alert.
    +1




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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule2 View Post
    Are you guys totally ignoring what the cold will do to Flacco's passes? I seem to remember he likes to heave the ball deep a couple of times a game. Is he gonna have the same accuracy with the heavy ball? If you don't think the cold will affect the Ravens also, you're more delusional than I thought. What about the Elevation? Did you forget about that? Don't kid yourself - unless the Ravens force beaucoup turnovers, they don't have a chance, and you know it.
    As a former DB and DB coach, Flacco has superior arm strength to get the ball through the cold and wind where Manning does not and relies on touch and doesnt throw spirals that will get held up. Also, on hard cold fields people don't realize how slippery they are, timing routes and cuts will be difficult for both Db and WR alike. It will make for a ball control plodding type game. It's also more difficult to hold onto the ball as well. This favors the underdog. It will be a game that favors POWER over speed and finesse. The weather will effect both QB's of course, making them MORE conservative. Hence, low scoring game with the running game featured more and short drop off passes with occasional long passes. It is also hard on kickoff coverage trying to cut on a cold slick feild, you might see some long returns in this game by both sides. From not playing in two weeks to playing in extreme cold weather might be a bit of a shock or it might not, I think more of a shock.
    Last edited by Boulderraven; 01-09-2013 at 01:12 AM.




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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    I'm ready for this game. Maybe Manning have a bad day...because this Raven D will be ready. Flacco needs scoring drives!! The Baltimore Ravens are hot now, as Den was in reg season. If we got any scoring drives the last meet, we had a great chance of winning. Cam was fired, so crazy week! Raven Nation is coming, We will Beat the Broncos, and get revenge with tucker in the AFC championship Game. Purple Pride GO RAVENS




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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderraven View Post
    As a former DB and DB coach, Flacco has superior arm strength to get the ball through the cold and wind where Manning does not and relies on touch and doesnt throw spirals that will get held up. Also, on hard cold fields people don't realize how slippery they are, timing routes and cuts will be difficult for both Db and WR alike. It will make for a ball control plodding type game. It's also more difficult to hold onto the ball as well. This favors the underdog. It will be a game that favors POWER over speed and finesse. The weather will effect both QB's of course, making them MORE conservative. Hence, low scoring game with the running game featured more and short drop off passes with occasional long passes. It is also hard on kickoff coverage trying to cut on a cold slick feild, you might see some long returns in this game by both sides. From not playing in two weeks to playing in extreme cold weather might be a bit of a shock or it might not, I think more of a shock.
    But Manning has the superior short passing game, as opposed to Flacco who needs to thrown the ball deep to be effective. Which passes will be more affected in inclement weather? And might I remind you that this game is at DENVER, where the crowd noise will be a negative factor for the Ravens? The guys on this thread are harping that Manning is 0-3 in the playoffs when the temp is below 40, but the Colts were heavy underdogs playing on the road. This time it's totally different.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleApocalypse37 View Post
    Don't have a chance? Shuttttt up.
    Oops, sorry. Just had my purple Kool-Aid and ready to toe the company line. It's gonna be 20 degrees and this somehow affects the HOME team but not the ROAD team. Somehow, the veteran Manning will have a hard time throwing in the frozen tundra but the visiting Flacco will have no trouble, hostile crowd and elevation aside. Alright, boss?




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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule2 View Post
    Are you guys totally ignoring what the cold will do to Flacco's passes? I seem to remember he likes to heave the ball deep a couple of times a game. Is he gonna have the same accuracy with the heavy ball? If you don't think the cold will affect the Ravens also, you're more delusional than I thought. What about the Elevation? Did you forget about that? Don't kid yourself - unless the Ravens force beaucoup turnovers, they don't have a chance, and you know it.
    No. Yes. What about it? No.

    The bad stats on Manning are below 40 and we're now looking at a game in the teens. I recently moved to Denver and went back to Maryland for the holidays and froze for a week. Despite what you might think, the damp air in Maryland is bone chilling cold. Have you ever been there? Also, how can the air be thin outside while the air in the ball is heavy? Who's delusional? Plus, I have found the elevation is not a big deal at 5,280'. Over 9,000' I notice.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    No. Yes. What about it? No.

    The bad stats on Manning are below 40 and we're now looking at a game in the teens. I recently moved to Denver and went back to Maryland for the holidays and froze for a week. Despite what you might think, the damp air in Maryland is bone chilling cold. Have you ever been there? Also, how can the air be thin outside while the air in the ball is heavy? Who's delusional? Plus, I have found the elevation is not a big deal at 5,280'. Over 9,000' I notice.
    Ask anyone throwing a freezing football, it's feels heavier. BTW, have you try running around in full football gear at 5280 feet? Hey, why believe me? Ask the football players who have to play at Denver and see if they say it doesn't affect them.




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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule2 View Post
    Ask anyone throwing a freezing football, it's feels heavier. BTW, have you try running around in full football gear at 5280 feet? Hey, why believe me? Ask the football players who have to play at Denver and see if they say it doesn't affect them.
    Elevation is a factor but often overstated @ pile high. 197-123 gets you an all time .615 home field record. Not too far over 50-50. If you built it at 6,500' or above that would be significant. I moved out here in September and have hiked with the locals above that keeping up just fine. The cold weather for this game will make a hard hit sting more, so that advantage goes to the more physical team.

    BTW, since you've been watching our team in the playoffs for the last several years you may have noticed that Joe plays just fine in the cold, that's not a concern. I'd sure worry about that though if coming into this game if he had a bad history of playing poorly below 40 degrees for a game played in the teens




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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule2 View Post
    Are you guys totally ignoring what the cold will do to Flacco's passes? I seem to remember he likes to heave the ball deep a couple of times a game. Is he gonna have the same accuracy with the heavy ball? If you don't think the cold will affect the Ravens also, you're more delusional than I thought. What about the Elevation? Did you forget about that? Don't kid yourself - unless the Ravens force beaucoup turnovers, they don't have a chance, and you know it.
    I am generally positive about this game.

    When they last played us, our defense kept it real for over half of the game. Flacco fumbled on 3rd and 1, a play that would have been a first down and threw a very stupid pass resulting in a pick six. We were missing Yanda, Pollard, Ray, and Dickson. We were not playing Mckinnie. It was our first game under our new OC.

    I like the way the Caldwell is calling our games... we have better/appropriate routes (use the field and not rely on isolation routes) and I loved the way Rice was blocking Mathis, slipped off and gained 47 yards. We have our spiritual leader back and we're emotional with his retirement.

    Let's not forget that Flacco out performed Brady last year in the AFCCG.

    We have a very real shot.




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    Re: Manning - In starts with game time temp under 40 degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    That ball is going to be hard as a rock and difficult to grip.
    Better not throw it to Tandon Doss.




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