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Re: Joe Flacco Earns 60th Career Win: Most All Time In First Five Years of a QB's Career!
Brady sits hit 1st season because he's a low round and high risk prospect and his team has a former 1st overall pick in the draft at the position. It's impossible for him to do the same thing in his 1st 5 years in the league. In the 1st 5 years that he played he wins 54 regular season games and 10 playoff games for 64 total games. 3 of those wins a Super Bowl victories.
But, we'll all cheer Joe because Brady doesn't count based on how this feel good stat is counted. When you are looking are the real elite players you don't have to justify their greatness with bullshit stats slanted to make them look good. Joe Flacco is a good QB but winning this many games in that time frame does not put him up there with the greats. Go bring this up to a Pats, Steelers or Giants fan as a reason why Joe belongs with their QBs and prepare to get laughed out of the building.
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01-08-2013, 09:16 AM #14Veteran Poster
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Re: Joe Flacco Earns 60th Career Win: Most All Time In First Five Years of a QB's Career!
The only thing the OP did is state a fact: Flacco has won more regular season games than any other QB. I don't see anything about claiming greatness, "eliteness", or that this somehow equates to the multiple championships won by Roethlisberger, Manning (the one that makes completions off of helmets, not the one that has as many rings as Trent Dilfer) and Brady.
Sheesh...sometimes it seems like the urge to prop up Flacco on this board is sometimes only matched by the competing urge to tear his accomplishments down.
I am not sure how winning games is a "bullshit" stat. Beats the alternative...(and lord knows we've seen the alternative). Credit where credit is due.
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Re: Joe Flacco Earns 60th Career Win: Most All Time In First Five Years of a QB's Career!
Brady didn't do what he needed to do to oust Bledsoe from the starting spot. Any coach, but especially Bellicheat, isn't going to sit a better player simply because of draft position.
In a lot of ways, Brady was more impressive to me during those dynasty years than in '07 (or since). He spread the ball around, often to ten or eleven different receivers, and the Patriots simply had a knack for winning ballgames. They'd win shootouts 37-34. They'd win slugfests 13-10.
But, we'll all cheer Joe because Brady doesn't count based on how this feel good stat is counted. When you are looking are the real elite players you don't have to justify their greatness with bullshit stats slanted to make them look good. Joe Flacco is a good QB but winning this many games in that time frame does not put him up there with the greats. Go bring this up to a Pats, Steelers or Giants fan as a reason why Joe belongs with their QBs and prepare to get laughed out of the building.
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01-08-2013, 09:35 AM #16
Re: Joe Flacco Earns 60th Career Win: Most All Time In First Five Years of a QB's Career!
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Re: Joe Flacco Earns 60th Career Win: Most All Time In First Five Years of a QB's Career!
Why does Brady's name even have to be entered into the conversation?
Again, comparing Joe to ANY other QB (past or present) is futile IMO. It just doesn't make sense. There are so many other impacting factors to the level at which a QB is able to play...and that includes his supporting cast...i.e. the rest of the team.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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01-08-2013, 09:53 AM #19Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Joe Flacco Earns 60th Career Win: Most All Time In First Five Years of a QB's Career!
Once again someone brings up a positive stat about Flacco, and the bashers run in to discredit Flacco. It's ridiculous.
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01-08-2013, 09:59 AM #20
Re: Joe Flacco Earns 60th Career Win: Most All Time In First Five Years of a QB's Career!
Jeez ... this negativity. Another factoid is brought forward by the about our team's leader is brought forward only to be nit-picked and shit on by some.
Joe is something special. He is the best QB that we have seen in Baltimore since the healthy Bert Jones of 1975-1977.In a 2003 BBC poll that asked Brits to name the "Greatest American Ever", Mr. T came in fourth, behind ML King (3rd), Abe Lincoln (2nd) and Homer Simpson (1st).
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Re: Joe Flacco Earns 60th Career Win: Most All Time In First Five Years of a QB's Career!
Damn near impossible to say anything positive about JoeLast edited by Justlovemybirds; 01-08-2013 at 10:34 AM.
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01-08-2013, 10:08 AM #22Legendary RSR Poster
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01-08-2013, 10:10 AM #23
Re: Joe Flacco Earns 60th Career Win: Most All Time In First Five Years of a QB's Career!
Brady had Charlie Weis.
Flacco had Cam Cameron.
That alone gives Brady a huge advantage.
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