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    Harbs is undefeated after a bye. Amazing considering all the rust.
    My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging. -Hank Aaron




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    Re: Game Thread -- Ravens @ Bengals (Pseudo Preseason Edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    Harbs is undefeated after a bye. Amazing considering all the rust.
    We were also undefeated at home for 15 games. We hadn't lost 2 games in a row in the Harbaugh Era. So much for those streaks. I actually agree with your points, but I'm getting tired of hearing these pointless statistics. These streaks can end at any time.




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    Re: Game Thread -- Ravens @ Bengals (Pseudo Preseason Edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by NC Raven View Post
    Exactly. By his logic, the 1 and 2 seeds are at a disadvantage by getting first round playoff byes. They would get "rusty"
    Credible arguments have been made in the past that the bye IS actually a disadvantage. Case in point the Chargers in 2009--they came out and looked absolutely lost after having a week off. The Jets knocked them off in their house en route to the AFCCG.

    The difference between rest and rustiness is complicated and dictated by the character of your team. The Ravens do have a good record after bye weeks, and that's encouraging. Hey, I would love to be wrong on this one and maybe I am. It just seems that given the streaky nature of this team THIS YEAR, it might have been better to go in on a big win like the Giants did last year and the Packers the year before that. Both teams were similarly streaky/"Jekyll and Hyde"




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    Re: Game Thread -- Ravens @ Bengals (Pseudo Preseason Edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    Credible arguments have been made in the past that the bye IS actually a disadvantage. Case in point the Chargers in 2009--they came out and looked absolutely lost after having a week off. The Jets knocked them off in their house en route to the AFCCG.

    The difference between rest and rustiness is complicated and dictated by the character of your team. The Ravens do have a good record after bye weeks, and that's encouraging. Hey, I would love to be wrong on this one and maybe I am. It just seems that given the streaky nature of this team THIS YEAR, it might have been better to go in on a big win like the Giants did last year and the Packers the year before that. Both teams were similarly streaky/"Jekyll and Hyde"
    That argument doesn't hold much water, simply because the Ravens have never lost a game after a bye week or week 1 under Harbaugh.

    Both the Packers and the Giants HAD to win their games to make the play offs.




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    Re: Game Thread -- Ravens @ Bengals (Pseudo Preseason Edition)

    It's not the fact they rested players. It's the fact they rested players after losing 3 out of their last 4 games. If the Ravens were on a winning streak and the offense was looking good, I don't think anyone would be complaining about this.

    Hell, if the starting offense was out there for a quarter or so and started moving the ball and THEN got yanked I think most people would be happy with that.

    But the fact is it feels like we are backing into the playoffs on a losing trend. We now have the same record as the Bengals, and a worse record than the Colts. We're only the 4th seed now because we won the division.

    If you feel fine looking at next week, that's ok. But I can't say I do. And no one who holds that opinion should be attacked by other forum posters for it.




  6. #636

    Re: Game Thread -- Ravens @ Bengals (Pseudo Preseason Edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    That argument doesn't hold much water, simply because the Ravens have never lost a game after a bye week or week 1 under Harbaugh.

    Both the Packers and the Giants HAD to win their games to make the play offs.
    And those are good things, but this isn't a game after a bye week or a week 1 game. They didn't have a bye week, they had a week of practice for Cincy and now they have a week of practice for Indy. I'm not sure it's really comparable to the situations you're citing no matter how much they tried to treat this past week like a bye week.

    We don't really have a great point to compare from. The Ravens under Harbaugh have had to play WC weekend 3 out of 4 years in the past, and they NEVER went into that game off a loss in week 17. In fact, they'd won at least 2 straight games 2 out of 3 years.

    The closest situation is 2009, when we came off a fairly underwhelming win at Oakland, but a win on the road is what it is. We had to go on the road again and we spanked New England. Obviously that was on the road and we're at home now, but a 33-14 beat down would be fine with me.




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    Indy just won an emotional game against Houston while the Ravens have been game planning for Indy all week. I see a Ravens win at home
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Indy just won an emotional game against Houston while the Ravens have been game planning for Indy all week. I see a Ravens win at home
    Yup, just like the first Ravens Steelers game last year they've been gaming for this for a while now.

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    Re: Game Thread -- Ravens @ Bengals (Pseudo Preseason Edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    Indianapolis is absolutely red hot right now. They can beat anybody anywhere when they're on, and they're on. The Ravens have no momentum and numerous key starters will be playing rusty and banged up. They have catastrophic timing, rhythm, and confidence issues on offense.

    That's not to mention that IF they beat Indianapolis, they have to take the show on the road and beat (in all likelihood) Denver. It isn't impossible, but it sure doesn't seem likely.
    So you're gonna go play in traffic during next weeks game, right?




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    And those are good things, but this isn't a game after a bye week or a week 1 game. They didn't have a bye week, they had a week of practice for Cincy and now they have a week of practice for Indy.
    If you think that anyone but Tyrod spent more than an idle afternoon prepping for Cincinnati this week, I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you.
    My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging. -Hank Aaron




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    Re: Game Thread -- Ravens @ Bengals (Pseudo Preseason Edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Indy just won an emotional game against Houston while the Ravens have been game planning for Indy all week. I see a Ravens win at home
    Indy will have the edge in emotion and momentum but the Ravens should have the edige in game planning. We will see if it's enough.




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    Re: Game Thread -- Ravens @ Bengals (Pseudo Preseason Edition)

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    If you think that anyone but Tyrod spent more than an idle afternoon prepping for Cincinnati this week, I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you.
    You're exaggerating but probably broadly correct. I doubt the coaches spent a ton of time gameplanning for Cincinnati. The point I was trying to make is that you can't just assume that this past week was the same as a bye, and that's why I'm not sure how much predictive value the Ravens' record after a bye holds. It certainly bodes well generally just in terms of the Ravens' motivation, although they're never lacked motivation to play hard in the playoffs.

    To be very specific, the problem that I see is that the Ravens' offense has major issues with their rhythm, timing, and communication. They looked great against New York, but is that the offense that shows up? Or does the Denver offense show up? I think the Ravens would have been well-served to work on their offense under live fire today. They didn't bother to and we'll see what impact that has.




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