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    If Caldwell doesn't work out as OC, then either Whisenhunt or Turner would be good choices.
    But no to Shurmur, Childress, Sparano or Knapp.




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    I would assume that if the Ravens wanted to they could reach a deal for a guy to be Offensive coordinator? I mean Caldwell is only OC as a fill in. I would assume that if they wanted a guy there are no NFL rules that would prevent them from calling Norv and getting a deal done. I thought the ban on hiring only applied to hiring coaches away from teams still in season. The Ravens have an OC position open are there any NFL rules that would prevent them from interviewing and hiring if there is a guy they like.

    Could be part of the reason they moved Cam out when they did. So they would not be left out in the cold after the post season. I would imagine they could get a deal in priniciple at the very least with a guy they like

    I like Turner but Wisenhunt would not be that bad if you ask me .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenous1 View Post
    I would assume that if the Ravens wanted to they could reach a deal for a guy to be Offensive coordinator? I mean Caldwell is only OC as a fill in. I would assume that if they wanted a guy there are no NFL rules that would prevent them from calling Norv and getting a deal done. I thought the ban on hiring only applied to hiring coaches away from teams still in season. The Ravens have an OC position open are there any NFL rules that would prevent them from interviewing and hiring if there is a guy they like.

    Could be part of the reason they moved Cam out when they did. So they would not be left out in the cold after the post season. I would imagine they could get a deal in priniciple at the very least with a guy they like

    I like Turner but Wisenhunt would not be that bad if you ask me .
    No NFL team can contact another teams coach unless they have permission from the team or they have been fired / let out of their contract.

    Yes, Cam was most likely fired during the season to the team would be prime to strike first at an OC opening. But it's highly unlikely they would have a deal in place with someone ahead of time. That's a HUGE no-no in the league and and could cost a team draft picks / hundreds of thousands of dollars if they discover a team colluded behind another teams back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    No NFL team can contact another teams coach unless they have permission from the team or they have been fired / let out of their contract.

    Yes, Cam was most likely fired during the season to the team would be prime to strike first at an OC opening. But it's highly unlikely they would have a deal in place with someone ahead of time. That's a HUGE no-no in the league and and could cost a team draft picks / hundreds of thousands of dollars if they discover a team colluded behind another teams back.
    No what I mean is that the Ravens could hire/reach a deal to announce later with Turner or Wisenhunt since they are no longer employees of their previous organizations. Did not mean that they were working on it from the time they let Cam go.

    Obviously they cannot talk to guys who are still under contract but guys who are not could they (Wisenhunt, Turner etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenous1 View Post
    No what I mean is that the Ravens could hire/reach a deal to announce later with Turner or Wisenhunt since they are no longer employees of their previous organizations. Did not mean that they were working on it from the time they let Cam go.

    Obviously they cannot talk to guys who are still under contract but guys who are not could they (Wisenhunt, Turner etc)
    It would make sense for the front office to have reached out (when permissable) to some guys so they're not left with the crumbs after the SB win

    Oz may have already placed a few calls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenous1 View Post
    No what I mean is that the Ravens could hire/reach a deal to announce later with Turner or Wisenhunt since they are no longer employees of their previous organizations. Did not mean that they were working on it from the time they let Cam go.

    Obviously they cannot talk to guys who are still under contract but guys who are not could they (Wisenhunt, Turner etc)
    Both of those guys were under contract up until a few hours ago.

    It would have been against league rules for the Ravens to reach out to them and get a deal done prior to them being canned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    It would make sense for the front office to have reached out (when permissable) to some guys so they're not left with the crumbs after the SB win

    Oz may have already placed a few calls.
    Yea that what I am thinking. The Ravens had to know that if they intended to replace Cam then putting out the help wanted sign prior to the end of the season makes some sense since there is always a coaching merry go round this time of year. In that respect dumping Cam when they did makes a lot of sense and while it does not gaurentee that you get a top shelf guy, it does let those type of guys know that the job exists.

    If you wanna get back to being a HC, you could do worse than OC of this team. There is talent on the offensive side of the ball to work with and this is an organization that has proven they want to win and can win. All good omens if your looking for a job that will propel you back towards a HC job
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Both of those guys were under contract up until a few hours ago.

    It would have been against league rules for the Ravens to reach out to them and get a deal done prior to them being canned.
    LOL I totally get that. Was simply saying nothing would stop Ozzie from calling NOW. If Cam were still under contract, I doubt those calls would be made. Poorly verbalized on my part sorry.
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    Gotta tell you... we were expecting some firings but this is one busy Black Monday. Wow
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    i'd like to get a new offensive line coach. we have enough talent to play better than what we are playing. someone needs to tell oher to stay on his block and stop quitting on plays.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenous1 View Post
    LOL I totally get that. Was simply saying nothing would stop Ozzie from calling NOW. If Cam were still under contract, I doubt those calls would be made. Poorly verbalized on my part sorry.
    Ah. I see.

    Will, if Norv et all are indeed on their radar, I think it's a safe bet calls have already been made.

    And if I were Norv, I'd slow play it and get the best deal possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Gotta tell you... we were expecting some firings but this is one busy Black Monday. Wow
    No doubt.

    I kinda feel for Lovie Smith. Think the guy is a decent HC and deserves another job.

    If I were Buffalo or KC I would be looking at guys like Brian Billick, Lovie Smith, Gruden, Reid, etc.... guys who have proven they can win with talent.

    The latest up and coming coordinator is great, some of these college names are great but those organizations need a steady coaching hand IMO. Stability
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Ah. I see.

    Will, if Norv et all are indeed on their radar, I think it's a safe bet calls have already been made.

    And if I were Norv, I'd slow play it and get the best deal possible.
    If the Ravens have one or two guys they really like, make em an offer they cant refuse and if they do then move on to the next one.

    This many openings means lots of OC positions will be available. Better to strike quickly then to be left without a chair if the music stops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenous1 View Post
    No doubt.

    I kinda feel for Lovie Smith. Think the guy is a decent HC and deserves another job.
    According to reports on SiriusNFL, the players really reacted negatively when they heard Lovie was fired. They love the guy. But he's had a few years with a great defense and Cutler for 3 years and still couldn't do it so that's why they let him go. Gonna be tough for anyone in that job as long as Aaron Rodgers is still around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    According to reports on SiriusNFL, the players really reacted negatively when they heard Lovie was fired. They love the guy. But he's had a few years with a great defense and Cutler for 3 years and still couldn't do it so that's why they let him go. Gonna be tough for anyone in that job as long as Aaron Rodgers is still around.
    Yea totally agree. Grew up as a Bears fan so still have some love for Da Bears.
    It was prob time for a change but Lovie is a quality head coach IMO. There are several teams out there that could benefit from him. Browns, KC, Buffalo, all teams were Lovie would be the best HC they have seen in years IMO.
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