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12-24-2012, 11:42 AM #37
Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so
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Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so
How was Smith's block a penalty? He hit him in the chest with his shoulder. He got his body in front of the defender before blocking him. That's not a blindside hit.
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12-24-2012, 11:53 AM #39Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so
Maybe it's time to change the rule on head shots and put it on the receiver when they lower their own head into an otherwise legal tackle.
Last edited by YorkRavensFan; 12-24-2012 at 11:58 AM.
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12-24-2012, 12:03 PM #40Veteran Poster
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Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so
He lined up two yards outside the end and hit a defender who was moving parallel to the line of scrimmage. That makes the hit fall under the defensless player rules (as of 2012 rule change). As for whether it violated the requirements of a legal hit on a "defenseless" player, that is another question. Smith hit with his shoulder for sure, but it was in the guy's upper chest, so it doesn't surprise me the refs threw the flag. They expect/want the hitter to come in bent, not upright, and hit near the waist, not sternum or above. They also, whether they admit it or not, probably want the player to come in with restraint (though the rule doesn't really get into the amount of force).
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12-24-2012, 12:56 PM #41
Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so
From my viewpoint, the refs absolutely stunk up the field and it became very noticeable how bias they were.
The overturned TD was ridiculous. The flags on Torrey's block as well as Reed's hit were bogus.
Jones catches the ball facing away from the goalline, has both hands wrapped around the ball, while his feet are on the ground, he did not leap up to catch the ball, so he doesn't need to come to the ground with it, by rule. He takes 2 steps and turns and reaches and lunges with the ball outstretched over the goalline, TD! End of play.
The Giant defender, who I believe was a linebacker gets outside of Torrey who was downfield. The linebacker completely turns around, Torrey, who is now downfield past the linebacker, turns and goes towards the sideline. The linebacker sees the play going around him and up the sideline is taking a pursuit angle turns around and downfield and gets hit square in the chest by Torrey who is downfield and running towards the sideline. BS call.
Ed comes from his safety position on a sideline pass where Cruz turns around catches the ball and Ed turns to avoid the helmet hit and uses his shoulder and aims to hit the ball loose BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT A DB IS SUPPOSED TO DO AND PAID TO DO. How is a defender supposed to play at that speed????!!! IF Ed has to bend over and hit him in the waist, then they might as well change the name of the game to something else because that's not football, and put asterisks next to EVERY passing record that has fallen since last year. I want to see someone make that play bent over. When you are running at the high speed of these football players today, if you lower your head to hit someone in the waist, you get your neck broke or the player leaps over your head LIKE LAST WEEK. Who remembers that?
The guys are taught from little league up to NOT lower their head, especially at the waist level because you lose sight of the player and they can make a move and leave you clutching at air. You won't be playing long at any level if you do that.
These flags that are thrown at the absolute fundamentals of the game are ridiculous. When players that have played their entire career since they were 8 years old, the way football was taught, are being asked to change what has become imprinted as second nature, it is virtually impossible. It is like being asked to write with your other hand AND keep up with the others. You can see that Ed turns his head away to avoid giving a helmet hit. Doing that makes him take his eye off the receiver does it not??? Well, he has managed to change some of his natural instincts and still that is not good enough.
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Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so
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12-24-2012, 01:28 PM #43
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12-24-2012, 01:34 PM #44
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12-24-2012, 01:36 PM #45
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12-24-2012, 01:57 PM #46
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Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so
From a financial standpoint, if they suspend him he would be smart to appeal it until the playoffs.
A suspension for the final regular-season game would cost Reed 1/17th of his regular-season salary, which equates to more than $423,000. If Reed misses a wild-card playoff game, he’d lose only $22,000.
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12-25-2012, 12:12 AM #48Regular 1st Stringer
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