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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so



    Benny-
    "OT: THE REFS CALLED A SHIT GAME ALL AROUND."

    I agree with you here, mon ami. I learned from a very distinguished gentleman during my soccer career that bitching about the refereeing was for losers, but (especially) since we won the game, I feel comfortable in saying that I was very disappointed with this week's officiating crew. After listening to all the pissing and moaning over the replacement refs, and then seeing what we get from the "real" refs,...C'MON, MAN! This is crap! Reed goes in with his shoulder, OBVIOUSLY! The replay clearly shows this.

    To add, there were too many calls today, both ways, where the refs just didn't seem to have a clue. I'm not an Oliver Stone fan by any means, but if there were any instance where it seemed like the stripes wanted to give a "big market" team an opportunity to come back from down a few scores, this was it. Not saying the fix was in, but this kind of shit officiating gets in the way of enjoying a good football match as well as denigrating the integrity of the game.

    p.s. I'm glad the Ravens won!




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    If Reed's play was a penalty - it is time to change the rules to a 2 hand touch has the receiver down. It is the only way to prevent receivers from being hit (hard).

    Led with his shoulder, hit the receiver in the chest and Reed had more momentum so the receiver went backwards. A good CLEAN sure handed tackle.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny8444 View Post
    i think when it comes to suspending a player the intent of the play is the determining role as that was the case when he was fined 50K vs 435K and one game. If a player clearly leans with his head he should be fined and possibly suspended but if he leans with his shoulder and tries to avoid the head he should not. No doubt it will get flagged but that should be it and I think they need to change the rule to allow for the refs to judge the palyers intent before throwing the flag because as it stands now any hit to a defenseless WRs head is a penelty and will be called.

    OT: THE REFS CALLED A SHIT GAME ALL AROUND.
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    I wonder if the refs will be suspended for taking a TD away from Jacoby?

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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    Reed won't get suspended.

    Reason: another Ravens defender came in and hit Cruz in the back (he got sandwiched basically) which knocked Cruz's head forward slightly and that caused Reed to lightly contact Cruz's helmet with his shoulder.

    Rule is that if contact to helmet occurs when the WR is being hit by somebody else, no flag, no fine.

    This officiating crew had its head up its collective ass today. They blew so many calls, I lost track.




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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    Quote Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06 View Post
    Doubtfull, it was a BS call and everyone knows it. Even the commentators said so from what I heard.

    I really think the NFL needs to start holding ref's accountable.
    Soon we will be watching flag footabll as I am sure that the idiot Goodall will be fining people for hitting receivers and runners at the knees. What is happening to the NFL? Hits are part of the game otherwise why not watch golf or badminton.




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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    Refs tried to swing the game back to the Giants. But the Ravens held strong and still got points!!




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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleRaven View Post
    Soon we will be watching flag footabll as I am sure that the idiot Goodall will be fining people for hitting receivers and runners at the knees. What is happening to the NFL? Hits are part of the game otherwise why not watch golf or badminton.
    Last night was pretty bad. On that one drive we were joking in the stands that if we scored it would be a 20 play 140 yard drive,lol. Longest in history.




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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleRaven View Post
    Soon we will be watching flag footabll as I am sure that the idiot Goodall will be fining people for hitting receivers and runners at the knees. What is happening to the NFL? Hits are part of the game otherwise why not watch golf or badminton.
    James Harrison got the message from the NFL when they suspended him for his head hunting . He admitted that now he tackles(aims lower) at an wr's or rb's knees. Looks like the NFL is ok with blowing out players' knees. The NFL is now clearly after Ed Reed's style of tackling. Ed won his appeal, but if I remember, there was a warning about any future hits like that very same kind of hit. I believe Ed's hit on Cruz was legal however I started watching NFL football in the sixties, when football used to be a contact sport!




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I wonder if the refs will be suspended for taking a TD away from Jacoby?

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    that was just a horrible call. no other way to say it. We all just say in complete disbelief, even mentioning how the rules are such that if he actually did the exact same thing 1 yard more downfield it would have been judgement whether he was a "runner" or "reciever" but was far enough out that it was obvious. just awful.
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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    The refs have gotten really bad with those kind of calls. There was the same play in the Seahawks/49ers game. Kam Chancellor clearly led with his shoulder and made an incredible 3rd down stop by knocking Vernon Davis out. All they saw was Davis's head move and they threw the flag. That gave the 49ers a 1st and goal for what would have been a punt. The refs could have changed the outcome of the game with a bad call like that.
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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    Quote Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74 View Post
    Reed won't get suspended.

    Reason: another Ravens defender came in and hit Cruz in the back (he got sandwiched basically) which knocked Cruz's head forward slightly and that caused Reed to lightly contact Cruz's helmet with his shoulder.

    Rule is that if contact to helmet occurs when the WR is being hit by somebody else, no flag, no fine.

    This officiating crew had its head up its collective ass today. They blew so many calls, I lost track.
    Agreed on all points....

    And wowzaaa... ref's were just woeful!

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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    The thing with that hit, and it was the same thing as the Torrey Smith hit, is the referee that threw the first flag was the guy 30 yards down the field, the guy three yards from the hit didn't even toss his flag until it came flying in from center field. There is NO WAY that an official 30 yards away from the hit should be making a call that the guy standing directly next to it didn't make. And then the guy standing next to them didn't overrule the guy 30 yards away. I don't understand how that can happen.




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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    The refs have gotten really bad with those kind of calls. There was the same play in the Seahawks/49ers game. Kam Chancellor clearly led with his shoulder and made an incredible 3rd down stop by knocking Vernon Davis out. All they saw was Davis's head move and they threw the flag. That gave the 49ers a 1st and goal for what would have been a punt. The refs could have changed the outcome of the game with a bad call like that.
    I was going to mention this same play - text book perfect. It's disappointing that these are being flagged.
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    Re: Will Reed get suspended? I suspect so

    There was a play in the 49er/Seattle game last night that looked even worse but was legit (after really looking at replays) Kam Chancellor appears to hit the same as Ed Reed, shoulder pad to top of the chest.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGEi7HOYTMQ
    it took a replay angle minutes later that had Collingsworth backing off his presonal foul condemnation and suggesting that it was a legit football hit... but it took time and the penalty was enforced and plays continued.

    The sticker is that the refs are now instructed to throw the flag if they THINK that they see it, and it is getting called if it smells like it could have been....

    Fines being overturned/cancelled shows that there are glitches with the system, but the flag is still going to be thrown while adjustments are tweaked.
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