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    Re: What made the difference?



    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Playcalling. People were expecting Caldwell to change the offense in 6 days. Look at the plays he called today. Things we haven't seen all year long. Short slants, rubs, hell a WR screen! Things that got the ball out of Joe's hand faster, and as a result he got in a rhythm and was accurate. They rolled him out and moved the pocket when needed. That opened up holes for Rice and Pearce to run through, and they bounced outside when needed.

    Caldwell put the offense in position to succeed, and the players responded.
    Exactly! All our receivers weren't running deep routes down the sidelines. Caldwell figured out that there is a whole new area to send receivers, which is the middle of the field.




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    Re: What made the difference?

    GOTA-
    I think your points are all well made. To add, I think the D showed some interesting creativity and "stoutness". Next man up...




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    Re: What made the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    It was attitude. Last week the team seemed so fragile that at the slightest bit of adversity they folded. This week when the Giants came back from 14 down to make it 14-7 it could have happened again. The attitude of the team was completely different though. They weren't letting that happen at home this time.

    There was a real intensity on defense and some more creativity on offense. Receivers made contested catches. Runners ran through the tightest of holes. Different attitude got back the same old results at home
    Spot on !!! And the feeling from the fans was like the pre-Steelers games. You could feel the energy and the "fire" on both sides of the ball. Execution was [generally] better; and when it was not, it did not carry over to the next series.
    Captain Offense




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    Re: What made the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    OL was great today.

    Sent from my DROID X2 using Forum Runner
    Osemele played really well. I know on one of the big throws he absolutely stone-walled JPP.




  5. Re: What made the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Playcalling. People were expecting Caldwell to change the offense in 6 days. Look at the plays he called today. Things we haven't seen all year long. Short slants, rubs, hell a WR screen! Things that got the ball out of Joe's hand faster, and as a result he got in a rhythm and was accurate. They rolled him out and moved the pocket when needed. That opened up holes for Rice and Pearce to run through, and they bounced outside when needed.

    Caldwell put the offense in position to succeed, and the players responded.
    Dead on Stinger




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    Re: What made the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Playcalling. People were expecting Caldwell to change the offense in 6 days. Look at the plays he called today. Things we haven't seen all year long. Short slants, rubs, hell a WR screen! Things that got the ball out of Joe's hand faster, and as a result he got in a rhythm and was accurate. They rolled him out and moved the pocket when needed. That opened up holes for Rice and Pearce to run through, and they bounced outside when needed.

    Caldwell put the offense in position to succeed, and the players responded.
    Abso-freaking-lutely!!




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    Re: What made the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Playcalling. People were expecting Caldwell to change the offense in 6 days. Look at the plays he called today. Things we haven't seen all year long. Short slants, rubs, hell a WR screen! Things that got the ball out of Joe's hand faster, and as a result he got in a rhythm and was accurate. They rolled him out and moved the pocket when needed. That opened up holes for Rice and Pearce to run through, and they bounced outside when needed.

    Caldwell put the offense in position to succeed, and the players responded.
    I almost fell out of my chair when I saw the pocket moved. No question Caldwell has improved from last week and based on this small sample size of 2 games, has gotten a feel for the players and what position to put them in.




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    Re: What made the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Playcalling. People were expecting Caldwell to change the offense in 6 days. Look at the plays he called today. Things we haven't seen all year long. Short slants, rubs, hell a WR screen! Things that got the ball out of Joe's hand faster, and as a result he got in a rhythm and was accurate. They rolled him out and moved the pocket when needed. That opened up holes for Rice and Pearce to run through, and they bounced outside when needed.

    Caldwell put the offense in position to succeed, and the players responded.
    This. The pass plays were quicker. He attacked the edge early with the run: the very first run play was Rice off the left tackle. He forced the defense to defend the whole field, and gave Flacco options to get rid of the ball quickly.

    Instead of Flacco taking 5 and 7 step drops and the O-line not being able to hold off the rush long enough for the receivers to work themselves open downfield, he was taking 3 and 5 step drops with shorter patterns early. That let him and the O get into rhythm, and it helped the O-line because they didn't have to poss-pro so long.

    This was more of what the Coryell is supposed to look like than Cameron was trying to do. They ran the ball, and threw for first downs when they had to. They didn't try to force the big play. The big plays will come: sooner or later the defense is going to try and cheat up and take away the shorter stuff.




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    Re: What made the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Playcalling. People were expecting Caldwell to change the offense in 6 days. Look at the plays he called today. Things we haven't seen all year long. Short slants, rubs, hell a WR screen! Things that got the ball out of Joe's hand faster, and as a result he got in a rhythm and was accurate. They rolled him out and moved the pocket when needed. That opened up holes for Rice and Pearce to run through, and they bounced outside when needed.

    Caldwell put the offense in position to succeed, and the players responded.





    Ding! Ding!! Ding!!! Winnah!! Easy answer. Caldwell has this offense up tempo and aggressively attacking the middle of the field. Caldwell is the difference.




  10. #25

    Re: What made the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by bacchys View Post
    This. The pass plays were quicker. He attacked the edge early with the run: the very first run play was Rice off the left tackle. He forced the defense to defend the whole field, and gave Flacco options to get rid of the ball quickly.

    Instead of Flacco taking 5 and 7 step drops and the O-line not being able to hold off the rush long enough for the receivers to work themselves open downfield, he was taking 3 and 5 step drops with shorter patterns early. That let him and the O get into rhythm, and it helped the O-line because they didn't have to poss-pro so long.

    This was more of what the Coryell is supposed to look like than Cameron was trying to do. They ran the ball, and threw for first downs when they had to. They didn't try to force the big play. The big plays will come: sooner or later the defense is going to try and cheat up and take away the shorter stuff.
    Bingo! On 3rd and 2, they weren't trying to throw 40 yards downfield, they had receivers 4 yards down to throw to!

    On that touchdown to Rice, it was a thing of beauty. They were 2nd and 5. Rice AND Pitta were right at the first down line. Pitta a yard behind it, Rice on it. Joe actually had his pick of who he could throw to and likely either of them would have had the 1st down. Actually Pitta was wide open with no one covering him. But it just so happens Rice is a little shiftier than Pitta, as San Diego also found out (no offense "Hands"), and took it for the TD.

    Pitta was wide open a lot today too. Two plays come to mind. It's 2nd and 5 and they send Pitta on a simple flair out to the right. Not downfield, just a nice little short corner out. Flacco hits him and it's 7 yards and a first down. Later in the 4th quarter it's 3rd and 1. Again Cameron would launch the ball downfield. Instead, while still in the shotgun, Pitta goes short left and Flacco hits him for 6 yards and........another first down. Extending the drive.

    Oh and one other thing. The Ravens got themselves in a couple ugly spots like 3rd and 19 and that whole bizarre 8 minute sequence in the 3rd quarter. Cameron at the point of 3rd and 19 would have gone with the good old predictable shotgun draw to Rice for nothing and punted. Instead THIS is the time Caldwell draws up the right deep call and Flacco hits Pitta for 36 yards. Oh yeah, and in the process Flacco takes off toward the line scrimmage to escape pressure and throws a laser-accurate pass to get it into Pitta's hands.

    Same thing earlier in the game. 2nd quarter 3rd and 19. Again, Cameron would have pissed his pants and ran the ball and punted. Caldwell says hell no, and the result is Flacco throwing a 36 yard air-dart to Boldin.

    Those are the kind of plays that make an offense successful, and confident. It was as much fun to watch as week 1 was.

    Now, the 60 million dollar question. Does Caldwell have the balls to call these plays in Cincy next week. And does Harbaugh have the balls to let him?




  11. #26

    Re: What made the difference?

    1) Yanda: he really solidifies both our run and pass blocking
    2) Caldwell: another week to tweak this scheme. Really it's not a bad scheme--it's more like it's incomplete. What Caldwell did was add more elements to it, while continuing to use the whole field and mixing up our play: short passes/deep passes, runs inside/runs outside etc.
    3) Receivers not dropping passes, even making tough catches.

    And all 3 of these led to...

    4) Joe played with confidence. He stepped into his throws instead of throwing off his back foot, he moved around in the pocket instead of being `a 6' 7" statue--even throwing on the run. When Joe's mechanics don't fall apart and he doesn't feel shackled, he's capable of playing this dynamically. We've seen him do it too often for it to be a fluke.




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    Re: What made the difference?

    1. The O-line gave Joe plenty of time in the pocket. The famed Giants' pass rush was nearly non-existent, whereas the Broncos' was dominant. The return of Yanda was a big help here.
    2. There was a clear emphasis on getting Joe in rhythm and rolling early.
    3. We worked to establish the run before taking the deep play-action shots.
    4. The coaching staff had clearly identifed the weakest link in the Giants' secondary (Webster) and kept attacking him relentlessly. Staying with what has been working hasn't always been our strong suit in the past.
    5. Similarly they had obviously identified the Giants' backs as a weakness in pass protection and again Pees kept attacking with some nice blitz calls.

    Good gameplan on both sides of the ball + great execution = confidence = points = wins
    "Flacco stepping up and throwing deep down the far sideline... CAUGHT!!! Into the endzone, TOUCHDOWN JACOBY JONES!!!!!"




  13. #28

    Re: What made the difference?

    To me, the key to this game was the first drive in the no huddle... it got Joe in a rythym, and that is a big key to his play. I told my wife after that first drive that they might roll the Giants, and for once I was right!




  14. Re: What made the difference?

    All the above.

    Plus, Execution by the players - mainly on converting 3rd Downs.

    Defense was rested throughout the game.

    Young guy, Chykie Brown? He was everyehere.




  15. #30

    Re: What made the difference?

    How about the obvious.

    The Giants are pretty bad, they lost to Atlanta 34-0. They are not in Denvers League and are not as good as Washington, and probably on the same level as the Steelers.

    We killed a bad team at home, good win but doesn't mean the Ravens are all of a sudden Super Bowl contenders. The Ravens are a 4 seed, should beat the Colts at home and then will lose to whomever they play in the second round.




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