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    Re: Trade Ray Rice?



    Quote Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06 View Post
    their 1st- (27th overall), second- (59th) and fourth-round (124th) picks this year and their first- and fourth-round picks in 2013.
    the trade was two drafts ago. It was the draft just finished they lost the future years picks In.

    The browns used the falcons pick on weeden




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    You'd have a point if that was realistic.

    Please show me one, just one, example of a teams top player getting traded a year after signing a new contract in exchange for two first round picks.

    I'll wait.
    And before last year, I'd've said no team would ever be stupid enough to do what Oakland did for Palmer.

    Just because something has never happened, doesn't mean that it never will. In fact, if something is possible, on a long enough timeline it is almost certain to happen.




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    Quote Originally Posted by redmike34 View Post
    And before last year, I'd've said no team would ever be stupid enough to do what Oakland did for Palmer.

    Just because something has never happened, doesn't mean that it never will. In fact, if something is possible, on a long enough timeline it is almost certain to happen.
    This. A 1st and 2nd for a 32 year old QB who hadn't played well in 5 years... and probably wasn't even going to help them short-term, much less long term.

    Meanwhile a team like Atlanta that is in prime position to win a couple Super Bowls over the next few years, but has a glaring need at RB... it's probably not all that likely, but again, there's a first time for everything.




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    Rice got $15 million bonus on a 5 year deal. That means that you are looking at a $12 million cap hit to trade him next season. No way the Ravens can afford that no matter what they get back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    trade him for Ricky Proehl and a brain for Caldwell
    Could you/someone fill me in on this joke regarding Ricky Proehl?




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    NOT!! Get a freakin' solid OL, and an OL coach who does not have his head up his you know where, and we'll do just fine. Little Ray defines what playing like a Raven is all about! Trading him is absolutely ridiculous!
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    I'm also not so sure Bernard Pierce could match Rice's productivity, and we are going to have to be a run first team next year. The combination of the two is what's going to drive us forward.




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    Ray Rice YPC in 2011- 4.7
    Ray Rice YPC in 2012- 4.5

    Where is this idea that he can't run effectively behind bad O-lines come from? I don't get it. The only reason that Ray Rice hasn't had a dynamic season is because of his inconsistent use.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I'm also not so sure Bernard Pierce could match Rice's productivity, and we are going to have to be a run first team next year. The combination of the two is what's going to drive us forward.
    You're probably right, but I want to see Pierce get more time. He seems to get stronger the more carries he gets and his running style is a better fit for the ZBS than Rice's.

    Bobby Rainey is also a really, really good player, and should not have gone undrafted. He's on IR right now but he plays a similar game to Ray Rice, and does it pretty well. Gets low and squeezes through the hole, low center of gravity to run through arm tackles, and makes plays in the passing game.

    I think you were right all along that this team needs to go run first to take pressure off Flacco and simplify his reads. I'm excited for what our run game can do once we beef up the OL next year.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    "also Atlanta's first- and fourth-round selections in 2012."- Wikipedia

    Atlanta are free in 2013.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NF...t#cite_note-21
    Hmmm, stand corrected. I ot my quote froma different site, and even double checked with a couple mocks and didn't see them having a first. Maybe I'm going crazy I dunno. lol.

    In any case I wouldn't want their first anyway which will probably be lower than ours. If you're gonna do something like this you better go get a high draft pick this year and the next to compensate.




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    Re: Trade Ray Rice?

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    You're probably right, but I want to see Pierce get more time. He seems to get stronger the more carries he gets and his running style is a better fit for the ZBS than Rice's.

    Bobby Rainey is also a really, really good player, and should not have gone undrafted. He's on IR right now but he plays a similar game to Ray Rice, and does it pretty well. Gets low and squeezes through the hole, low center of gravity to run through arm tackles, and makes plays in the passing game.

    I think you were right all along that this team needs to go run first to take pressure off Flacco and simplify his reads. I'm excited for what our run game can do once we beef up the OL next year.
    The Oline is without question number 1 priority this offseason. It will help both the run and passing game. I think the defense will be good again if we get players back healthy and add one or two pieces (ILB, and FS).




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    The Oline is without question number 1 priority this offseason. It will help both the run and passing game. I think the defense will be good again if we get players back healthy and add one or two pieces (ILB, and FS).
    I'd say an actual playmaker at both ILB and DE is quite needed. And or NT. Cody was a big fat flop.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post
    So this is what a 3 game losing streak does to a fan base? Interesting

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    Agreed...utterly ridiculous. I think someone's been drinking too much holiday cheer.




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    At this point I think Ozzie should entertain ALL offers for everyone. I mean, a good portion of the board is willing to let the best QB this franchise has ever had walk for nothing...why should Rice be exempt? He hasnt had a good year either...I wonder why...

    Oh!!!! The OL isnt very good! Imagine that. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    At this point I think Ozzie should entertain ALL offers for everyone. I mean, a good portion of the board is willing to let the best QB this franchise has ever had walk for nothing...why should Rice be exempt? He hasnt had a good year either...I wonder why...

    Oh!!!! The OL isnt very good! Imagine that. ;-)

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    You CANNOT compare them. This offense has been centred around Flacco this year, Rice hasn't had 20 carried every game like Flacco has got to throw the ball 40 times a week. Besides, the notion that Rice isn't having a good year is nonsense. 4.5 yards a carry, has over 1k yards, and has over 450 yards receiving. 1.5 yards from scrimmage is nothing laugh at, where as Flacco's numbers for a guy who is looking for top 5 money are laughable.

    Rice is the more talented player and the offense should be catered around him not Flacco.




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