Ogden called it

**Jsmoove** · 12-20-2012, 05:53 PM

http://russellstreetreport.com/jonat...ffensive-line/

JO pretty much nail it on the head and pretty much confirmed the "doghouse"

**Thrall** · 12-20-2012, 05:58 PM

I think he was being nice to Oher.

**bacchys** · 12-20-2012, 06:07 PM

I don't think he's using "dog house" in the same way some fans here are.

The "dog house" according to Ogden is on McKinnie: what he's not doing to supplant Oher at LT.

Most of the "dog house" believers here think Harbaugh refuses to play someone who is better because he's mad at them- that despite what they do to earn a place on the field, Harbaugh isn't going to allow it.

**ActualSpamBot** · 12-20-2012, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

http://russellstreetreport.com/jonat...ffensive-line/

JO pretty much nail it on the head and pretty much confirmed the "doghouse"

How you could possibly misread his use of the term doghouse is beyond me. Read the context. "“I’m assuming that if [coaches] do like they’ve always done, they’re evaluating practice tape every single day, every play, every snap. If he’s not on the field by now, it’s obvious he’s not doing what he needs to be doing in the weight room, in the film room to say to the coaches, ‘Hey, Mike is struggling, I’m ready to go back in there, put me in, coach.”

He's not describing the mythical doghouse of this board that some people love to insist exists. He meant (and clearly articulated) that McKinnie isn't showing the effort or desire to play and that he's not giving the coaches a reason to assume he'd be an upgrade. You literally saw the word doghouse and ignored EVERYTHING in the paragraph to come to the conclusion you did.

**lobachevsky** · 12-20-2012, 07:02 PM

Everyone grab something & hold on tight:

I agree 100% with Slammin' Spammy Bot.

Re "doghouse," I stand also with Inigo Montoya: You killed my father, prepare to die--

(-um, sorry, wrong quote. This one: ) You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

**Section 502 Raven** · 12-20-2012, 08:33 PM

it refreshing to have someone be direct versus beat around the bush. in essence, JO is confirming what many know about oher at left tackle but won't admit.

**pslholder96** · 12-20-2012, 08:57 PM

Sorry I don't see anything earth shattering here. We know Oher is not a natural LT and we know there's a doghouse.

**leachisabeast** · 12-20-2012, 09:19 PM

JO said that Oher is a good LT, and that's being pretty nice IMO.

Oher can be a great guard though.

**Shas** · 12-21-2012, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by pslholder96

We know Oher is not a natural LT and we know there's a doghouse.

I would say that Oher is more of a natural left tackle than right tackle -- Osemele is more of the brutish kind of run blocker you typically see on the right. Oher is not. It's just that Oher is playing his natural position in a pretty average way right now.

My read on the JO quote supports this entirely. His "doghouse" comments don't relate to Oher, except to say that a multiple Pro Bowl LT in McKinnie can't beat out a guy who is not excelling ahead of him. We all know McKinnie has the ability to beat out Oher, but the suggestion made by J.O. is one hopefully we all agree with: McKinnie can't get on the field --- he is in the dog house -- because he hasn't put in enough effort to coaches to show he can execute on the field.

There is no dog house for players who have personalities that the coaches don't like. There are dog houses for players who aren't performing, even if they've performed in past years.

**Dirt1** · 12-21-2012, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by lobachevsky

Everyone grab something & hold on tight:

I agree 100% with Slammin' Spammy Bot.

Re "doghouse," I stand also with Inigo Montoya: You killed my father, prepare to die--

(-um, sorry, wrong quote. This one: ) You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Inconceivable!

**Carey** · 12-21-2012, 01:53 PM

Here's my take on it...Harbs wants gym rats out there, guys that come early, stay late, etc. Mckinnie's rep has always been the opposite. I dont know where Mckinnie is conditioning wise currently so i cant speak to that. If he's still out of shape then you dont bother but if he is in shape and does his job from a preparation standpoint you play him because he's a better LT then Oher. Sure you want 53 choir boys that work extremely hard but that never happens, you have to put the best guys on the field provided they do their job. Now i dont think Mckinnie is anymore then a solid stop gap LT but it would allow us to get our best 5 lineman on the field. This is all provided he's practicing like a starting NFL lineman, unfortunately we dont know that but as a fan im hopeful he is because im tired of Oher looking like a swinging gate at LT lol

**Tucker: M&T Sec 527** · 12-21-2012, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Carey

Here's my take on it...Harbs wants gym rats out there, guys that come early, stay late, etc. Mckinnie's rep has always been the opposite. ... If he's still out of shape then you dont bother but if he is in shape and does his job from a preparation standpoint you play him because he's a better LT then Oher. Sure you want 53 choir boys that work extremely hard but that never happens, you have to put the best guys on the field ... This is all provided he's practicing like a starting NFL lineman,

You can substitute the name "Gaither" for "McKinnie" and watch the patterns repeat.