Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 79
  1. #31

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go



    they will offer Ed a deal proably more than we would get anywhere else but less than he wants. If Flacco signs i can see the Franchise Tag for him and we draft a safety this year or next year.

    we dont have anyone to take over for Ed.

    Other positions we have players who can take over

    Kruger (Upshaw)
    Boldin (Doss)
    C. Williams (Grahm)
    Birk (Gino)

    The rest can be gotten in the draft. It is deep on the D and O line this year which happens to be our biggest needs.

    I dont see us drafting a WR/RB/OLB

    We usually like to take a CB in the middle rounds so that will happen again but I want to see what Asa can do after sitting for a year to develop, he will prob compete with C. Brown for the 4th CB spot.




  2. #32

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    There is no hysteria, if dude doesn't want vet minimum, he can walk. They need to start trimming the roster from old expensive players and start getting younger and dudes that can tackle.
    The difference between "I cannot see the FO giving in to his contract demands" and "Ed Reed needs to go" is hysteria. The words may have the same practical effect, but hysteria is a tone, an atmosphere, not a point by itself. And it is not becoming.

    Hysteria can also produce specious claims not supported by facts, such as "Harbaugh keeps throwing bad replay flags." Hysteria is ugly. A person can make a good point calmly, supported by real facts and not imagined ones.

    Don't let me get in the way, though. Carry on with your pitchforks and torches.
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




  3. #33
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    where my head touches the pillow
    Posts
    7,201
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    While it will be sad to see Ed leave the fact is Reed is not the same player anymore, for a cap friendly contract yes, but nothing more, time to get younger with better tackling.




  4. #34
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Severna Park
    Posts
    3,441
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    The difference between "I cannot see the FO giving in to his contract demands" and "Ed Reed needs to go" is hysteria. The words may have the same practical effect, but hysteria is a tone, an atmosphere, not a point by itself. And it is not becoming.

    Hysteria can also produce specious claims not supported by facts, such as "Harbaugh keeps throwing bad replay flags." Hysteria is ugly. A person can make a good point calmly, supported by real facts and not imagined ones.

    Don't let me get in the way, though. Carry on with your pitchforks and torches.
    Are we talking football or cucumber sandwiches and 4 o'clock tea? Hysteria? Seriously?

    1: a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability and disturbances of the psychic, sensory, vasomotor, and visceral functions.

    2: behavior exhibiting overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotional excess.


    A 34 year old football player, who played his postition at the highest level for most of his career. A player who is also suffering from a neck/nerve impingement. A player who has clearly slowed and his gambling style cannot make up for his lack of speed.

    A player, who has been 'disrespected' according to him over contracts and seemingly threatens to retire every year?

    I don't see how cutting ties is hysteria. No one is screaming cut him, bench him. But his time in a Raven uniform is coming to an end. There is no one better? Right now, sure. But next year, it is time to start life without him back there.

    Now, allow me to move aside so you may carry on with your hyperbole of my opinion.




  5. #35
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Deep in the bowels of Maryland suburbia
    Posts
    1,981

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post

    A 34 year old football player, who played his postition at the highest level for most of his career. A player who is also suffering from a neck/nerve impingement. A player who has clearly slowed and his gambling style cannot make up for his lack of speed.

    A player, who has been 'disrespected' according to him over contracts and seemingly threatens to retire every year?

    I don't see how cutting ties is hysteria. No one is screaming cut him, bench him. But his time in a Raven uniform is coming to an end. There is no one better? Right now, sure. But next year, it is time to start life without him back there.
    This.




  6. #36
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    where my head touches the pillow
    Posts
    7,201
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    Are we talking football or cucumber sandwiches and 4 o'clock tea? Hysteria? Seriously?

    1: a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability and disturbances of the psychic, sensory, vasomotor, and visceral functions.

    2: behavior exhibiting overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotional excess.


    A 34 year old football player, who played his postition at the highest level for most of his career. A player who is also suffering from a neck/nerve impingement. A player who has clearly slowed and his gambling style cannot make up for his lack of speed.

    A player, who has been 'disrespected' according to him over contracts and seemingly threatens to retire every year?

    I don't see how cutting ties is hysteria. No one is screaming cut him, bench him. But his time in a Raven uniform is coming to an end. There is no one better? Right now, sure. But next year, it is time to start life without him back there.

    Now, allow me to move aside so you may carry on with your hyperbole of my opinion.
    touche' Cap




  7. #37

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    I don't see how cutting ties is hysteria. No one is screaming cut him, bench him. But his time in a Raven uniform is coming to an end. There is no one better? Right now, sure. But next year, it is time to start life without him back there.
    I thought I was clear about this: I'm not saying it's wrong to cut ties. I have kids, sometimes they're hysterical about things. It doesn't mean they're wrong, it just means they're being hysterical.

    Say Ed Reed's contract demands are too high for what he brings to the table. Say it does not make sense to invest too much into the free safety position. Say this is / should be / probably (pick one or more) his last year wearing the purple. I would agree with all those things.

    But saying "Ed Reed needs to go" is being hysterical.

    Your accusation of hyperbole is showing, Captain.

    Quote Originally Posted by trailhiker85 View Post
    This.
    Ok, that's a valuable addition to the conversation. Thanks.
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




  8. #38
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Houston, TX Y'all
    Posts
    27,500

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    Ok, that's a valuable addition to the conversation. Thanks.
    "This" is message board slang for "I agree" or

    What's wrong with it?
    WARNING: This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, common sense and/or supporting factual or anecdotal evidence. All statements and assertions contained herein may be subject to literary devices not limited to: irony, metaphor, allusion and dripping sarcasm.




  9. #39

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    "This" is message board slang for "I agree" or

    What's wrong with it?
    It literally adds nothing to a conversation. Without giving a reason, "I agree" adds no more than "I disagree," neither of which helps me think about what's being discussed. I know it's common, but it still gets on my nerves and occasionally I grumble.

    Unless - literally - your name is "BMore Ravor" or "FilmStudy," a flat "I agree" means nothing to me, because I don't care.

    I'm probably not the only one who feels that way, but I might be.

    /shrug
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




  10. #40
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Severna Park
    Posts
    3,441
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    I thought I was clear about this: I'm not saying it's wrong to cut ties. I have kids, sometimes they're hysterical about things. It doesn't mean they're wrong, it just means they're being hysterical.

    Say Ed Reed's contract demands are too high for what he brings to the table. Say it does not make sense to invest too much into the free safety position. Say this is / should be / probably (pick one or more) his last year wearing the purple. I would agree with all those things.

    But saying "Ed Reed needs to go" is being hysterical.

    Your accusation of hyperbole is showing, Captain.


    Ok, that's a valuable addition to the conversation. Thanks.
    Mmmmyeah... it is a message board dude, not a court of law. I talk, type, like a human. Ed Reed needs to stay at nothing more than vet minimum. There, happy? Not hysteria, opinion.

    Jeeesh....

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    It literally adds nothing to a conversation. Without giving a reason, "I agree" adds no more than "I disagree," neither of which helps me think about what's being discussed. I know it's common, but it still gets on my nerves and occasionally I grumble.

    Unless - literally - your name is "BMore Ravor" or "FilmStudy," a flat "I agree" means nothing to me, because I don't care.

    I'm probably not the only one who feels that way, but I might be.

    /shrug
    Switch to decaf.




  11. #41

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    I was talking about the OP, which is why I quoted it repeatedly. I missed what you said.

    edit: Hmm, decaf. Maybe I will...
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




  12. #42
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Cub Hill, MD
    Posts
    2,690

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    I think he should be released after this year.

    He's way past his prime, he's always hurt and he just refuses to wrap up. He's going to make 2-3 nice INTs each year on instinct. But his overall play has declined to the point where he looks like a liability.


    WORLD CHAMPIONS 2000 * 2012




  13. #43
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Where Ravens Fans Roam Free
    Posts
    1,988

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny8444 View Post
    they will offer Ed a deal proably more than we would get anywhere else but less than he wants.
    I think this is what the Ravens will do with Ed, but I would hope that they don't franchise him. I think the Ravens owe Ed the respect of not forcing him to stay here if he would rather move on, especially if Ray retires.




  14. #44

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    I don't blame him, but I'm sure Ed has a very inflated estimation of his future value. I trust that our FO violently disagrees.




  15. #45

    Re: Ed Reed needs to go

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    I think this is what the Ravens will do with Ed, but I would hope that they don't franchise him. I think the Ravens owe Ed the respect of not forcing him to stay here if he would rather move on, especially if Ray retires.
    If Ozzie even floats the idea of franchising Ed then I expect he would also announce his resignation in the next breath.




Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Russell Street Report Website Design by D3Corp Ocean City Maryland