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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money



    Quote Originally Posted by RavensQB View Post
    Well I guess what you read is not what you remember. I said



    But I guess the AXE ain't the only thing not sharp.
    I'm just doing what you guys are doing when you think I'm bashing Flacco, if you read half of what I post you will understand that I'm merely following what Ozzie famously says.

    ''Right player, right price''.

    Flacco at 75 million is the right price, not over 100 million.




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I'm just doing what you guys are doing when you think I'm bashing Flacco, if you read half of what I post you will understand that I'm merely following what Ozzie famously says.

    ''Right player, right price''.

    Flacco at 75 million is the right price, not over 100 million.
    How many years? 5, 6, 7?




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensQB View Post
    How many years? 5, 6, 7?
    5 or 6 years sounds about right, it will be very beneficial to us, because it's nicely spread out and will allow us to get Flacco some better players on offence. If Flacco gets a better supporting cast, maybe he may elevate his game and will see an even richer third contract by the time he hits 33.




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Lol well I'm not the one who wants Flacco to go to another team and beat us. Always the team over the player, even if it is the QB.
    I agree if there is a legitimate option to make the team better. The Colts let Peyton walk because they knew they were going to draft Andrew Luck. The Ravens don't have an option like that.

    The best way to make this team better is to get Flacco under a contract that makes sense and allows them to surround him with a good supporting cast. Plain and simple.
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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    I think 6 years around 12-13 mill per year is going to be close to what the contract is. That's about $72-78 million in total.

    Guaranteed money...maybe $33-35 mill.
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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I think 6 years around 12-13 mill per year is going to be close to what the contract is. That's about $72-78 million in total.

    Guaranteed money...maybe $33-35 mill.
    I would try to push the per/year down a lil more and bonus more.

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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I think 6 years around 12-13 mill per year is going to be close to what the contract is. That's about $72-78 million in total.

    Guaranteed money...maybe $33-35 mill.
    You see, we are not on a different page at all.

    I just hope that's what Flacco sees too, because it will allow us to keep a good QB who is a much better option than anything else out there this offseason, as well as saving some money so we can get some good players, maybe Brandon Alberts.




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    I wonder if Flacco will be willing to backload his contract, because down the line we'll be in much better cap shape than we will be for the next two years.




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I'm just doing what you guys are doing when you think I'm bashing Flacco, if you read half of what I post you will understand that I'm merely following what Ozzie famously says.

    ''Right player, right price''.

    Flacco at 75 million is the right price, not over 100 million.
    So it's like I posted in another thread. You're okay with Joe at 75M but not over 100M:

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    So do all these 17 pages REALLY boil down to this:

    Joe is fine at "X = Top 10-15" amount of dollars, but Joe is NOT fine at "Y = ELITE" amount of dollars?
    Actually, I don't have a problem with that. I just don't understand how/why this thing has spun so far out of control when it boils down to something as fundamentally simple as that.




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    So it's like I posted in another thread. You're okay with Joe at 75M but not over 100M:



    Actually, I don't have a problem with that. I just don't understand how/why this thing has spun so far out of control when it boils down to something so fundamentally simple as that.
    Because Flacco clearly asked for top 5 money, that's what this is about. Now, he may not be asking for that anymore, but why hasn't he accepted the original deal he was offered then?




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Because Flacco clearly asked for top 5 money, that's what this is about. Now, he may not be asking for that anymore, but why hasn't he accepted the original deal he was offered then?
    Why should he? Would YOU accept an offer that's less than other teams would be willing to give you, especially given how the Ravens have dealt with Joe? (i.e. Sticking him with Cameron despite the OBVIOUS problems?!!) I think all this was really exacerbated when Zorn was let go. For the first time Joe expressed some real negative opinions, and it's just been smoldering ever since. This year was an important year in the Ravens-Joe negotiations, and I think the Ravens handled it very poorly because they chose to re-sign Cameron. Now there's probably going to be a price to pay for that decision.




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    If 5 doesn't realize that this team needs to reserve some loot to build a better front for him so that he can ultimately be successful then he's an idiot...and will be remembered (though easily forgotten outside the AFCN) as one of dozens of well-paid losers at the QB position.

    He's smarter than that right?
    So he would favor a backloaded deal right?
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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    If 5 doesn't realize that this team needs to reserve some loot to build a better front for him so that he can ultimately be successful then he's an idiot...and will be remembered (though easily forgotten outside the AFCN) as one of dozens of well-paid losers at the QB position.

    He's smarter than that right?
    So he would favor a backloaded deal right?
    Hmmmm...so he's an idiot for wanting to get as big a pay day as he can? Got it.

    smh




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    Hmmmm...so he's an idiot for wanting to get as big a pay day as he can? Got it.

    smh
    I guess the idiot part would be if we do not have money to spend on the OLINE to protect him. He could be out pretty quick.




  15. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    Hmmmm...so he's an idiot for wanting to get as big a pay day as he can? Got it.

    smh
    No. And that's not even a good question in the context of what's being argued here and you know it.

    Pretty much by definition he WILL get as big a pay day as he can get...all UFAs do. That's what "market" means. This is the QB position we're talking about...you know that position that's just about solely responsible for winning games. Winning.

    If he doesn't want to win here then sure keep pressing the ceiling...and keep losing across most of your 5-6 years too b/c its going to take a few to construct a quality line through the Draft.
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