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Flacco's perfromance, contract and future
So looking a bit further ahead, (aside from ruining my January!) what do my compadres around here think are the potential ramifications of Flacco falling on his face to end this season??
If he continues to go out in a thud, I'm wondering if he could actually end up out the door, albeit, not necessarily intentionally.
Obviously, the Ravens are committed to Flacco, but have the opportunity to lower their offer based on how this season ends.
The question is, "how low?"
Too low and the Ravens risk pushing him out the door for greener pastures. And there are a number of teams that would overpay for him. (And in the business you REALLY only need one dumb person to drive the price up.)
So do the experts around here think Ozzie will stick with that original offer based on previos years performance or try to shave some money off?
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12-19-2012, 12:52 PM #194
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Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
flacco had no shot in hell when Ozzie kept drafting tackles to play gaurds, not to mention harbaugh fuckin him royally by sticking with Cam Cameron for so long, my question is would the ravens be better without flacco? people for got the some pretty memorable 4th qtr comebacks by Joe. I say to give flacco a fair shake he needs a new system, a young creative mind that has experience. I don't like norv turner i think that a bad hire, no more croyell system, put joe in a west coast hyrbrid system take his strengths and go from there, get the man freakin GOOD OLINE and stop letting that worthless crap of of LT mike oher block for him. Get Joe into a position where he can succeed. I think Ozzie and John should get more blame for joes inconsistencies than Joe himself.
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12-19-2012, 12:59 PM #195Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
I really hear ya! I shuddered when I read that other thread that said Turner might be the guy to take over the offense next year. The Ravens just don't have the personnel to run that sort of Air Coryell offense, IMO. And even if they bring in someone else, I'm just not sure the Ravens are capable of putting Joe in the best possible position to win, even if they do somehow work out a long term contract.
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12-19-2012, 12:59 PM #196
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
Did you respond to the wrong comment? ...b/c I have no idea how you landed on the above based upon what I said below. There are no assumptions there nor am I implying that "somewhere else = losing". I'm actually saying that "here" (with no upgrades to the OL b/c we have very little money to spend after caving to some top tier market value contract "=losing"
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12-19-2012, 03:32 PM #197Veteran Poster
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Re: Flacco's perfromance, contract and future
If we let him walk, team after team would be lined up to get him. He has immense talent, but is just horribly inconsistent. Given his age and success in such a young career, I think a lot of teams would live with those qualities and try to coach the flaws out of him. Having said all that, he certainly has not justified us paying him Drew Brees-type money. This is shaping up to be arguably the most important decision in franchise history, one that could make or break us. Considering it is just so hard to find a franchise QB, my guess is Joe receives the franchise tag and they give him next year in presumably a new offense to prove his full worth.
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12-19-2012, 03:36 PM #198Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Flacco's perfromance, contract and future
Not trying to hijack the thread but don't be surprised if this gets merged with all the other Joe Flacco threads.
I think the Ravens will Franchise him for sure. Long term who knows what happens.
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12-19-2012, 03:36 PM #199Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Flacco's perfromance, contract and future
Exactly. Teams will line up to court Flacco. Teams look at a guy like Flacco and see that he's consistently won. Maybe he hasn't been consistent playing wise, but I would assume that a team could figure that they could put Flacco in a system which would play to his strengths and work with him. It's really hard to find a QB in this league.
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12-19-2012, 03:43 PM #200
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Re: Flacco's perfromance, contract and future
We really don't know what we have in Joe, this FO and coaching staff fucked him by keepin Cam way too long now we don't know what flacco could have done under a better OC a more creative OC, a season under that situation would give this FO an idea if flacco is really the franchise QB they had hope for, to be fair to Joe Ozzie didn't set him up for success either giving him tackles for gaurds and movie magic Oher to protect his blind side. On the flip side Flaccos price has gone down thanks to his piss poor performance this season, no way his ass thinks he still deserves that kinda money.
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12-19-2012, 03:51 PM #201
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Re: Flacco's perfromance, contract and future
These are the teams that I think would dump the QB they have in favor of Flacco. Flacco would only need one of them to be willing to overpay him. Still, It is a big gamble to overpay Flacco, therby hamstringing your cap for years to come.
Definately
Jets
Bills
Browns
Jags
Chiefs
Raiders
Eagles
Cardinals
Probably
Titans
Vikings
Maybe
Bucs
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12-19-2012, 03:54 PM #202iggyman555 Guest
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12-19-2012, 04:00 PM #203
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Re: Flacco's perfromance, contract and future
bouy Joe would need round the clock counseling in Philly
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12-19-2012, 04:16 PM #204
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Re: Flacco's perfromance, contract and future
Teams will only be lining up if Flacco is asking for something reasonable. If he is still looking for top 5 money the list of teams that will pay him that will be very short, if any.
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