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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money



    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    if flacco wants elite money the ravens should pay him what they think hes worth and then joe should sue lee evans for the difference
    In a nutshell.
    "When questioned, the Elders explained that they were in search of magical powers. However, they're actually searching for the whereabouts of a certain ring. This ring is a legendary treasure that long ago was known to exist"




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    You're making a lot of assumptions. The Ravens have a LOT of holes, have NOT done what they've needed to do to bolster this offense, and to assume that Joe will be smart to stay here because "here = winning; somewhere else = losing" is just not all that bright, IMO. Not under the current situation.
    Especially, when you consider that he's been the one constant while all of these holes have developed. No one else can give another reason for the winning this year. It used to be the defense. Can't say that anymore. It used to be Ray Rice. Can't say that anymore. For some reason, people just don't want to say Joe.
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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Especially, when you consider that he's been the one constant while all of these holes have developed. No one else can give another reason for the winning this year. It used to be the defense. Can't say that anymore. It used to be Ray Rice. Can't say that anymore. For some reason, people just don't want to say Joe.
    People can -- and do -- find every other possible variable for the Ravens' success over the past 5 years OTHER than Joe. And I honestly just don't get it. The Ravens have had much better D's prior to Joe's arrival. But they've never been as consistent as they've been since he's gotten here. He's done everything they've asked him to do and he's done it with a great attitude, despite having his hands tied behind his back by a control freak OC, mediocre O-line, and less than elite supporting cast. He's been the model of consistency (the last 3 games notwithstanding), and yet HE'S the one being labeled "inconsistent". The Ravens FO has failed to build an entire offense around him, yet somehow it's all Joe's fault. Now, in some people's minds, it's up to Joe to prove something to them. What's he been doing the past 5 years? If that's not enough, then I don't know what is or ever will be for those people.

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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Especially, when you consider that he's been the one constant while all of these holes have developed. No one else can give another reason for the winning this year. It used to be the defense. Can't say that anymore. It used to be Ray Rice. Can't say that anymore. For some reason, people just don't want to say Joe.
    Ridiculous. It's Joe and Rice and the rest of the offense and defense and special teams. Just like it's always been.

    If you try to tell me that Flacco was a particularly large contributor to winning the, off the top of my head, KC and/or first PIT game, I'll politely tell you that you should enter rehab. The CIN, DAL, or OAK games? Sure, Joe was a major contributor. Our ST has been the biggest contributor to at least one win (PIT).

    What the reality of this situation is, is that there's a contingent of people on this board who continually are looking at terrible Flacco statlines and effectively saying, "hey the numbers don't matter, he just WINS!" Which is, if I'm not mistaken, the same argument put forward by the multitude of Tebow acolytes last year. And hey, Tebow has accomplished what Joe hasn't--he beat PIT in the playoffs! He'll be available next year! DO IT OZ!!!!!

    Or, maybe we could sit back and have a rational conversation about our QB that doesn't involve blind faith...




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by redmike34 View Post
    Ridiculous. It's Joe and Rice and the rest of the offense and defense and special teams. Just like it's always been.

    If you try to tell me that Flacco was a particularly large contributor to winning the, off the top of my head, KC and/or first PIT game, I'll politely tell you that you should enter rehab. The CIN, DAL, or OAK games? Sure, Joe was a major contributor. Our ST has been the biggest contributor to at least one win (PIT).

    What the reality of this situation is, is that there's a contingent of people on this board who continually are looking at terrible Flacco statlines and effectively saying, "hey the numbers don't matter, he just WINS!" Which is, if I'm not mistaken, the same argument put forward by the multitude of Tebow acolytes last year. And hey, Tebow has accomplished what Joe hasn't--he beat PIT in the playoffs! He'll be available next year! DO IT OZ!!!!!

    Or, maybe we could sit back and have a rational conversation about our QB that doesn't involve blind faith...




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    LOL @ the people who think our winning success has started with Flacco. Absolute denial and crazyness to think that, laughing my ass off here. It's funny how the ENTIRE league and every other fan of every other team all know that the reason we've won most of our games have been down to our defense and Ray Rice, yet a portion of the Ravens fan base still have their fingers in their ears shouting, LEE EVANS LEE EVANS LEE EVANS... CUNDIFF! OUTPLAYED BRADY! I seriously think you guys support Flacco him self more than the actual team.




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    Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    People can -- and do -- find every other possible variable for the Ravens' success over the past 5 years OTHER than Joe. And I honestly just don't get it. The Ravens have had much better D's prior to Joe's arrival.
    Seriously?

    After fielding the best defense in the history of football in 2000 (when we won the SB which we haven't done with Joe btw). Here are the defensive rankings that totally unsupport that argument.

    This pro-football-reference.com that have a much better system of rankings defenses.

    2001: 4th ranked overall defense
    2002: 19th ranked defense
    2003: 6th ranked defense
    2004: 6th ranked defense
    2005: 10th ranked defense
    2006: Top ranked defense
    2007: 22nd ranked defense

    Now prior to this year lets take a look at the defensive rankings since Joes been here.

    2008: 3rd ranked defense
    2009: 3rd ranked defense
    2010: 3rd ranked defense
    2011: 3rd ranked defense

    That seems like a much more consistent defensive unit than what we had over the years between 2000 and 2007 (before Joe got here), and that is in a much more passing friendly league. It's funny how this year we field one of the worst defenses and Joe has clearly struggled most this year with that fact. We are probably going to have a 10-6 or 9-7 season (off the back of some really lucky and fluky wins), which is lower than any other season since Joe's been here apart from 2009.

    If you mean we had a much meaner looking defense that gave up penalty after penalty playing undisciplined football under the great Brian Billick and Rex Ryan, then maybe you do have a point. But our defenses since 08 until this year has been better overall.

    And one more defining point that I notice a lot of people don't like hearing around here. Most of Joe's wins have been when Rice has touched the ball more than 20 times in a game and averaged over 4 yards a carry, not when Joe has thrown the ball more than 40 times a game.

    It is clear that this team are successful when we pound the ball 30 times a game and play great defense, we need a combination of both back, while letting Flacco effectively run the game at a reasonable price, not 100 million. We are just not a passing team, we have never had success trying to air it our on a consistent basis.
    Last edited by leachisabeast; 12-22-2012 at 10:48 AM.




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