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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs



    Hate this, no matter who is behind it.
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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Haloti92 View Post
    14 teams means best team in each conference gets a bye.
    16 teams means no one gets a bye.

    Not sure which I like better. Probably 14 teams.
    I agree with 14 and a bye for each. 16 is too many, half the league? What's the point of a regular season?
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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    14 teams at most. Teams like the Jets and Rams would be in the playoffs under a 16 team playoff. Nothing against those teams, but I don't need to see that. MLB and NFL have the best playoffs IMO because so few teams get in, the NHL and NBA let half the league in and it diminishes the acheivement of making the playoffs, as well as the overall level of play in the playoffs...

    Having said that, I'm sure it will happen eventually. This is an easier fight than the 18 game schedule.




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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    If they can't extend the season it is a sneaky way to get more $$$. I bet it happens.
    Bingo, Cap'n. The one good thing about Greedell is that any time the fans forget that this is a business, you can always dig out some harebrained idea he's floated & wave it in their collective face to remind them.




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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Remember how everyone screamed when a 7-9 Seahawks team made the playoffs a couple of years ago? Imagine that almost every year. Last year for example there were 6 AFC and 6 NFC teams with winning records. More spots means setting things up for .500 or losing teams to make the playoffs.
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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Yes, at the behest of the owners.

    The league doesn't see a dime in profits. The individual teams do.

    All revenue the league brings in (fines, TV deals, etc) pays for the league operational costs and what's left over gets spread out amongst the 32 teams.
    Mmm, doesn't the fine money go to a charity of the player's choice?
    He's put in place to be their lightning rod. He takes the hits; that's what he's paid to do.
    He's the CEO but they're the Board of Directors & they can vote him out at any time.

    Next time y'all start bitching about "greedy players" & strikes & lawsuits, try to keep in mind that as much money as they make, they're still only employees, mostly very short-term hires, who when contracts are violated or working conditions unsafe have no ultimate recourse except the threat of court action.




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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Remember how everyone screamed when a 7-9 Seahawks team made the playoffs a couple of years ago? Imagine that almost every year. Last year for example there were 6 AFC and 6 NFC teams with winning records. More spots means setting things up for .500 or losing teams to make the playoffs.
    Exactly.




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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Why not emulate baseball and have a 162 game regular season - that should improve safety!




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    Quote Originally Posted by lobachevsky View Post
    Mmm, doesn't the fine money go to a charity of the player's choice?
    Yes. I simplified my remarks for the sake of brevity. I'd lump all of that under what I called operational costs.

    Quote Originally Posted by lobachevsky View Post
    Next time y'all start bitching about "greedy players" & strikes & lawsuits, try to keep in mind that as much money as they make, they're still only employees, mostly very short-term hires, who when contracts are violated or working conditions unsafe have no ultimate recourse except the threat of court action.
    When has a players contract been voided without cause?

    And they do have recourse. They have a union. If they wanted better working conditions or more of a meaningful recourse, they should have found a way to get it in the CBA.
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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Remember how everyone screamed when a 7-9 Seahawks team made the playoffs a couple of years ago? Imagine that almost every year. Last year for example there were 6 AFC and 6 NFC teams with winning records. More spots means setting things up for .500 or losing teams to make the playoffs.
    The issue most had was the Seattle was hosting a playoff game with a 10-6 New Orleans team, not that Seattle was in the playoffs.

    Seattle won their division which not only gets you into the playoffs but guarantees at least the 4 seed and a home game.

    IMO they need to tweak it so that division winners do get into the playoffs (if they don't then there is no point in having divisions) but the 6 teams from each conference are seeded based on record.

    That puts more value on the regular season and rewards teams (for this example the 10-6 Saints) for their play in the regular season.

    Seattle is one hell of a place to play and New Orleans felt the wrath of Lynch.

    As far as the thread topic.

    Leave it alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplepoe View Post
    IMO they need to tweak it so that division winners do get into the playoffs (if they don't then there is no point in having divisions) but the 6 teams from each conference are seeded based on record.

    That puts more value on the regular season and rewards teams (for this example the 10-6 Saints) for their play in the regular season.
    Then you're penalizing teams for playing in a really tough division (where the teams routinely beat up on one another) or playing a particularly tough extra-divisional schedule compared with other teams in the same conference. And you're also telling two teams in the same division with very good records that jockeying for the division championship isn't worth much. There's a downside to nearly every alternative that's been proposed.
    As far as the thread topic.

    Leave it alone.
    The NFL scheduling & playoff arrangements are IMHO about as perfect as system as can be devised. Thirteen games in & look how many teams are still alive for playoff spots or jockeying for higher seeding that is actually worth something. The problem (if you can call it that) is it requires 32 teams in 2 conferences of 4 divisions each playing 16 games apiece--you can't mess with any of those factors without upsetting the applecart.




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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by lobachevsky View Post
    Then you're penalizing teams for playing in a really tough division (where the teams routinely beat up on one another) or playing a particularly tough extra-divisional schedule compared with other teams in the same conference. And you're also telling two teams in the same division with very good records that jockeying for the division championship isn't worth much. There's a downside to nearly every alternative that's been proposed..
    I still think it beats the current system.

    Winning the division should only guarantee a playoff spot, not a home playoff game IMO.

    Either way, you gotta have division winners in the playoffs no matter what their record is.

    PP




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    Goodell is an ass imo.

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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Remember how everyone screamed when a 7-9 Seahawks team made the playoffs a couple of years ago? Imagine that almost every year. Last year for example there were 6 AFC and 6 NFC teams with winning records. More spots means setting things up for .500 or losing teams to make the playoffs.
    While this is true, you're only looking at the Seahawk side of it. The flip side is the teams like the 2008 Pats (11-5) and the 2010 Bucs (10-6) couldn't get in.

    That was particularly hard to swallow in 2010. The Seahawks were a bad team that won a bad division. I'll concede that winning the division makes them a playoff team, but making a 10-6 team sit at home while a 7-9 division winner in name only got a home playoff game? Particularly when the 10-6 team crushed the 7-9 team in week 16 that season?

    If that happened to the Ravens this board (among others) would melt, and rightfully so. If adding two teams to the mix can prevent that from happening again, I'm all for it.




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    Re: OT - Goodell considering expanding playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by redmike34 View Post
    While this is true, you're only looking at the Seahawk side of it. The flip side is the teams like the 2008 Pats (11-5) and the 2010 Bucs (10-6) couldn't get in.

    That was particularly hard to swallow in 2010. The Seahawks were a bad team that won a bad division. I'll concede that winning the division makes them a playoff team, but making a 10-6 team sit at home while a 7-9 division winner in name only got a home playoff game? Particularly when the 10-6 team crushed the 7-9 team in week 16 that season?

    If that happened to the Ravens this board (among others) would melt, and rightfully so. If adding two teams to the mix can prevent that from happening again, I'm all for it.
    You need to win your division. Making HALF the NFL teams make the playoffs is stupid, make the regular season more boring than already is.




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