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    Re: Good stuff from Greg Cosell on Cam after his dismissal



    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    Is it just me or has anybody else noticed that Joe's blitz recognition in the no huddle is light year's better then it is outside of it? What would you attribute that too, i think he has been damn good setting the right protection in the no huddle but if you look at the Washington game last week there were at least 2 occasions on those corner/safety blitzes where i didnt even see him look to the side where the blitz is coming from. It makes you wonder if that is a control thing, when he's in control he seems to be more cerebral and mindful of the small details and when he wasnt he isnt so much.
    Possibly but also keep in mind that one of the advantages to the no huddle is that it keeps the defense in it's base formation. Most exotic blitz calls come directly from the DC, I would think. When you switch to a hurry up, you are able to neutralize a guy like Rex Ryan and take those things away.

    In a nut shell, I think defenses become easier to read in the no huddle, which would explain his success.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Corey View Post

    In a nut shell, I think defenses become easier to read in the no huddle, which would explain his success.
    This. That is why is much better at it. It limits what options the D coordinator has at his disposal by limiting the different personnel.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HKusp View Post
    This. That is why is much better at it. It limits what options the D coordinator has at his disposal by limiting the different personnel.
    Defenses basically have to play a basic shell coverage. There isn't really any time to setup any exotic formations.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Corey View Post
    Possibly but also keep in mind that one of the advantages to the no huddle is that it keeps the defense in it's base formation. Most exotic blitz calls come directly from the DC, I would think. When you switch to a hurry up, you are able to neutralize a guy like Rex Ryan and take those things away.

    In a nut shell, I think defenses become easier to read in the no huddle, which would explain his success.
    Most definetely, but the reason i brought it up because i've seen Joe in the no huddle looking at exotic looks and taking his time to determine where the blitz is coming from, and i've seen him have success but out of the no huddle just totally botch the protection. Regardless of how the blitz looks it seems he's watching film on the teams to know what type of pressures the defenses like to use but outside of the no huddle so different. Has to be that the calls are coming in too late to change anything. But i think keeping the base defense on the field has a lot to do with the increased efficiency in that regard.




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    Re: Good stuff from Greg Cosell on Cam after his dismissal

    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    Most definetely, but the reason i brought it up because i've seen Joe in the no huddle looking at exotic looks and taking his time to determine where the blitz is coming from, and i've seen him have success but out of the no huddle just totally botch the protection. Regardless of how the blitz looks it seems he's watching film on the teams to know what type of pressures the defenses like to use but outside of the no huddle so different. Has to be that the calls are coming in too late to change anything. But i think keeping the base defense on the field has a lot to do with the increased efficiency in that regard.
    People keep saying over and over that Joe is no Peyton or Brady, or hell even Eli. But I think he could be a Jim Kelley in my book, which would be awesome.




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    Re: Good stuff from Greg Cosell on Cam after his dismissal

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    People keep saying over and over that Joe is no Peyton or Brady, or hell even Eli. But I think he could be a Jim Kelley in my book, which would be awesome.
    Jim Kelley is a hall of fame player. I'd aim a lot lower than that. Joe reminds me of Boomer Esiason who did win the MVP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    People keep saying over and over that Joe is no Peyton or Brady, or hell even Eli. But I think he could be a Jim Kelley in my book, which would be awesome.
    I truly believe that, i think he's shown flashes of being able to do the things from a cerebral standpoint to win it all. He's won some big games where he's done the leg work to do so. Now it seems he'll have his opportunity to have the freedom to impact the game the way his peers have been able to and have a fighting chance in being consistently productive (No huddle, short passing game, etc.) Im really looking forward to see how he responds on Sunday. My only concern with him short term is the fact that he's not use to quicker developing plays and routes so he's really gonna have to pull the trigger on some of these throws and recognize things quickly. He's done it before but i'd imagine he's gonna have to do it much more often then he's accustomed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Jim Kelley is a hall of fame player. I'd aim a lot lower than that. Joe reminds me of Boomer Esiason who did win the MVP.
    I said could be. Joe runs the no huddle like Kelley did the K-gun. Boomer was a side arm hurry-up offense that tried to get penalties. He was more of a game manager than a slinger in my opinion. Joe has a cannon and fits the style of Kelley WAY more than Boomer. Matt Schaub is more of a Boomer to me.




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    Re: Good stuff from Greg Cosell on Cam after his dismissal

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Jim Kelley is a hall of fame player. I'd aim a lot lower than that. Joe reminds me of Boomer Esiason who did win the MVP.
    I get your point but we are in a different era, crazy stat...Troy Aikman only passed for more then 20 TD's once in his entire career, he's a hall of famer but in this day of age they'd probably put him in Matt Schaub's echelon.




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    Re: Good stuff from Greg Cosell on Cam after his dismissal

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Jim Kelley is a hall of fame player. I'd aim a lot lower than that. Joe reminds me of Boomer Esiason who did win the MVP.
    Jim Everett.




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    Re: Good stuff from Greg Cosell on Cam after his dismissal

    You are saying Flacco reminds you of Jim Everett? That is a huge stretch.
    Flacco already has 53 wins and 14 game winning drives in his 4.75 years in the league. Jim Everett had 64 wins and 15 game winning drives his entire 12 year career. Everett had 1 playoff win his whole career too. Joe already has 5. The only comparison between the 2 is, they are white males, right handed, play(ed) QB, and are both tall.




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    Re: Good stuff from Greg Cosell on Cam after his dismissal

    Quote Originally Posted by JimZipCode View Post
    Jim Everett.
    So if Jim Rome ever interviews Flacco, we should make sure he doesn't ask him about being an elite QB, or this will happen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNgqQVHI_8
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    Re: Good stuff from Greg Cosell on Cam after his dismissal

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    So if Jim Rome ever interviews Flacco, we should make sure he doesn't ask him about being an elite QB, or this will happen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNgqQVHI_8
    Lol. that's the first thing I thought of when I read Jim Everett.




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    Jim Kelly?

    Really?
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Jim Kelly?

    Really?
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