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    Re: Media Crowning Patriots Again



    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I'm sorry but video taping signals is not on par with a pay-to-injure scheme amongst players and coaches.

    Nobody got hurt when Bilichick and his video cronies video taped signals but there is strong evidence to support people actually getting injured from the Saints nonsense (i.e. Farve).
    I mean they are on the same level of cheating the game, or playing outside the rules. You know what happens if you steal signals in baseball, right?

    The Saints broke the rules and so did Belichick, who knows how much of an advantage he got from that.

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    And that's wasn't my point to start with anyway. It's slightly hypocritical when some Ravens fans call him a cheater to this day who are, all the while, mum about a player like Suggs who beat the tar out of some dude with a pipe.

    If you're going to be forgiving, at least do so minus the purple glasses. That was my point.
    I'll be honest, I have never heard that about Suggs, never. I have no idea what that's about. BUT, if I was to forgive him for that, that would be forgiving him for something personal, not for cheating the game. (BTW - beating a dude with a pipe is far worse, just point out we're talking about two different things)
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    Re: Media Crowning Patriots Again

    If you wanna crown them, then crown their ass.





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    Re: Media Crowning Patriots Again

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    We've seen this from the before... say for about the last 5 years, 20-0 at home in December.
    For about the last 5 years they're 0-2 on the road in Feb.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by edgecrusher View Post
    Same as always. Disrupt the timing by jamming the receivers at the line and pressure Brady. Hard to do for four quarters but it happens, usually at the worst time for the Patriots in the playoffs. Every season the Patriots are called unstoppable and yet someone steps up and whips them.
    Well it didn't happen last night against the #1 seed in the AFC.

    The last time they got whipped in the playoffs was by the Ravens in 2009. Before that they lost by 14 to the Broncos in 2005. I can't find another double digit loss in the playoffs during Tom Brady's run.

    Tough to win in the playoffs but the Pats are always right there. So yeah, they and maybe the Giants are as close to unstoppable as it gets in a salary cap NFL.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LC_Ravens_87 View Post
    Well it didn't happen last night against the #1 seed in the AFC.

    The last time they got whipped in the playoffs was by the Ravens in 2009. Before that they lost by 14 to the Broncos in 2005. I can't find another double digit loss in the playoffs during Tom Brady's run.

    Tough to win in the playoffs but the Pats are always right there. So yeah, they and maybe the Giants are as close to unstoppable as it gets in a salary cap NFL.
    Ok, so they (and the Giants?) are "unstoppable" in the sense that they are great teams that are usually stopped? Is that what you mean? The Patriots are beatable just like any other football team. They don't seem any tougher this season than most others. You just have to execute on the plan that everyone uses to beat them. Someone will manage it, if not, they will win the SB.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    I'll be honest, I have never heard that about Suggs, never. I have no idea what that's about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgecrusher View Post
    Ok, so they (and the Giants?) are "unstoppable" in the sense that they are great teams that are usually stopped? Is that what you mean? The Patriots are beatable just like any other football team. They don't seem any tougher this season than most others. You just have to execute on the plan that everyone uses to beat them. Someone will manage it, if not, they will win the SB.
    Take a look at how that secondary is playing, and combine it with the trio of RB's they have this year. Find another Pats team in recent years that has that combo...also take a look at that margin of victory since their bye week.

    They've won 5 straight by a combined 106 points.

    I don't know, maybe it was the demolition job last night, but to me, this Pats team seems deeper and more balanced on both sides of the ball than in years post 2007.




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    Simply put, Belichick outcoaches the other guy far more often than not. They take away what the other team does well, then exploit their weakness, wherever it is.

    The biggest part of why Belichick is constantly outcoaching everybody is that he is not risk averse at all, and he knows that most other coaches are. You can only beat his offense by playing press man coverage on the receivers and sending the house at Brady, but coaches are terrified of doing that because they'll get blamed if they get burned.

    You see traces of that way of thinking all throughout the way the Patriots operate. Belichick never, ever coaches scared, and he punishes other coaches for doing so. Whatever you think of the guy, he is a football genius through and through.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    It amazes me that some Ravens fans, of all people, won't let Belichick live down his one transgression, all the while say nothing about the half dozen or so players the Ravens have had, whose one transgression was far worse than cheating on football games.
    I never understood this. Belicheck is one of, if not, the best coaches in the league and a big supporter of baltimore football (Harbs was his suggestion). They happened to go 18-1 after the findings, so evidently they really didnt need what they found out anyway. Id also be shocked if more teams didnt do it at the time. It wasnt unsimilar to the Bountygate where the league acknowledged it was happening and sent out a memo telling teams to stop it. difference is nobody got hurt by video footage.
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    Re: Media Crowning Patriots Again

    If Brady were the Ravens, he would make the Ravens OL look like All Pros. He was so decisive with his reads, and got the ball out so fast that the Texans pass rush didn't have time to get to him. Brady made the Patriots OL look a lot better than they are by his play.




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    Does anyone remember 2010?

    The Patriots rolled into Heinz field and trounced the Steelers. I believe they also demolished NYJ (they were one of the AFC's top contenders that year). Yet they went on to lose to the Jets in the divisional game in Foxboro, and the Stoolers went to the SB.

    The Patriots do this every year, it won't surprise me if they go one and done in the play offs, but it also wouldn't surprise me if they win the SB either. The play offs are a new season.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    If Brady were the Ravens, he would make the Ravens OL look like All Pros. He was so decisive with his reads, and got the ball out so fast that the Texans pass rush didn't have time to get to him. Brady made the Patriots OL look a lot better than they are by his play.
    Yup and when he saw the D in man he went to the shotgun and fired it in two seconds
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    Re: Media Crowning Patriots Again

    its the bilecheck system its is designed to take what the defense gives, how often you see brady throw a deep ball?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    its the bilecheck system its is designed to take what the defense gives, how often you see brady throw a deep ball?
    Once in a blue mooon.. But it was out last night and Donte Stallworth went to the endzone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensQB View Post
    Once in a blue mooon.. But it was out last night and Donte Stallworth went to the endzone.
    they will short dick you to death down the field, then when you least expect it, a guy like stallworth goes down the field for 6, one has to wonder what secret does bilecheck posses to have a top 5-10 offense every single season? Yes they got brady but what would brady be without bilecheck? we know bilecheck has done it without brady look at cassels, 11-6 that year and didn't make the playoffs. Cassels has look like shit since he left NE.




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