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  1. #391
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    Re: Coaching Change?



    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    WNST 12:50pm via Web

    Drew: Source says #Harbaugh and several players were not happy with Cam's decision to end the 1st half with a knee in DC on Sunday.

    This was right when the camera panned to Harbs and he was SCREAMING at Cam. The fact that we ended regulation on a similar note was probably the act that sealed the deal.
    But wait this doesn't play into the "Conservative Harbaugh" narrative.




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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
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    Drew: Source says #Harbaugh and several players were not happy with Cam's decision to end the 1st half with a knee in DC on Sunday.

    This was right when the camera panned to Harbs and he was SCREAMING at Cam. The fact that we ended regulation on a similar note was probably the act that sealed the deal.
    At some point this falls on Harbaugh too.

    I'm not complaining Cam is gone, I've been bitching about the for two years. But if it takes you to fire someone instead of telling them what you want, it's your fault too, if only a little.
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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
    Hearing the decision to fire Cam Cameron was made last night at roughly 7 p.m., then carried out this morning.

    WNST running that it was started by Bisciotti.

    Jason Cole also had an article on yahoo, but doesn't have much we didn't know.
    Last edited by Tyrian; 12-10-2012 at 03:07 PM.




  4. #394

    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBob View Post
    I agree with what is said in the second half of this ESPN video from today about Cam firing.

    I know some people do not like Jaworski but I do think he has good insights. He mentions Cam's offense was not creative enough (too predictable) to take advantage of what we have here. I agree.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732341/baltimore-ravens-fire-cam-cameron-tab-jim-caldwell
    FWIW, Jaws is very close with Flacco and his family. My guess is that a lot of what is being said there is coming, not just from Jaws opinion, but also what he's heard about the inner workings of the Cam/Flacco relationship.
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  5. #395

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.r.genovese View Post
    But wait this doesn't play into the "Conservative Harbaugh" narrative.
    No, but it does play into the "Reactionary/Panicky Harbaugh" narrative.

    My question: What the hell took you so long and why now? If those 2 plays were a fire-able offense, then what the hell was Jacksonville?




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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by CodyPKA View Post
    This Is one of the happiest days of my life
    Oh man, you and me both!! Wooohooo!!!!!!!!

    Yes Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus!!!

    I got the news from someone at work... and my initial reaction was that they were fucking with me, knowing how much I hated Cam.




  7. #397

    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    WNST 12:50pm via Web

    Drew: Source says #Harbaugh and several players were not happy with Cam's decision to end the 1st half with a knee in DC on Sunday.

    This was right when the camera panned to Harbs and he was SCREAMING at Cam. The fact that we ended regulation on a similar note was probably the act that sealed the deal.
    Huh.

    Then I guess I can stop wondering what Harbaugh's explanation was for that decision. It did seem strange, and I'm not normally one to second guess coaches on individual game-condition decisions...
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  8. #398

    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post
    In that posted ESPN segment with Jaws and Adam Schefter, Schefter said that there were rumors of Cameron being let go last week.
    +1 - I have never been a big fire Cam guy, although I understood the obvious sentiment, until last week. That was deplorable and not surprising that it started the ball rolling. Tnis week was probably the straw that broke the camel's back.




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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Not sure of the reliability of the news.

    But I am hearing that the team is playing for Harbaugh's job too.

    Which could be why he didn't something he didn't want to do and fired a friend.
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  10. #400

    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    Just wait till Cameron starts chirping. Oh boy....
    Cam will keep his mouth shut. He won't air any dirty laundry. Doing so would make him unemployable, like Fassel.




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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    Huh.

    Then I guess I can stop wondering what Harbaugh's explanation was for that decision. It did seem strange, and I'm not normally one to second guess coaches on individual game-condition decisions...
    We didn't really end the first half with a knee. But we did start a "drive" with a standard clock-killing run for 0 yards (i.e. we were not trying to get into FG range). Then again the drive started at the 13, so relative to the numerous other situations we have pretended to try or taken knees that one wasn't that egregious.

    It also seems strange that Harbaugh couldn't, doesn't, didn't think necessary, to simply walk over to Cameron as they were punting and say "I want to try to get into FG range here, not get into the lockerroom." I can't imagine Harbaugh said such a thing and Cameron flat out ignored him, but I guess it is possible (considering how angry Harbs was).




  12. #402

    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    FWIW, Jaws is very close with Flacco and his family. My guess is that a lot of what is being said there is coming, not just from Jaws opinion, but also what he's heard about the inner workings of the Cam/Flacco relationship.
    Just curious...how do you know about Jaws' personal relationship with Flacco? I always thought Jaws' Flacco-fluffing was a little over-the-top and wondered whether there was a relationship behind the scenes like this.




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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Not sure of the reliability of the news.

    But I am hearing that the team is playing for Harbaugh's job too.

    Which could be why he didn't something he didn't want to do and fired a friend.
    Link? Source?
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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Not sure of the reliability of the news.

    But I am hearing that the team is playing for Harbaugh's job too.

    Which could be why he didn't something he didn't want to do and fired a friend.
    It's reliable. The entire coaching staff could be gone(including Harbaugh) if things don't improve over these last 3 games.




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    Quote Originally Posted by TTRaven View Post
    It's reliable. The entire coaching staff could be gone(including Harbaugh) if things don't improve over these last 3 games.
    Gimme a break.

    Harbaugh is not getting fired after five playoff seasons.
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