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  1. #256
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    Re: Coaching Change?



    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    This assumes that people will know that happened that way. Even if Bisciotti told Harbaugh to do it, that doesn't mean the players are ever going to know that.
    It would be foolish to tell them otherwise, that's for sure. As a sergeant, I never tell my soldiers I'm being forced to do something from higher that they don't like. I'm the asshole. The commander is the good guy. I once talked a commander into releasing everyone early, and then went out and told them "against my better advice, the commander has decided to let you bums go early today. Apparently, he thinks you worked hard enough."




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    Re: Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

    The numbers Joe has in no huddle vs. not in no huddle are pretty drastic I think. I forget where I saw the stats yesterday but there was a pronounced difference.

    He has already expressed frustration in why they've moved away from it.




  3. #258

    Re: Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Derrick Mason commenting on Twitter:

    "Players makes the O schemes work. What can Caldwell do that cam couldn't?"

    "been brewing for a while"

    "hiring of Caldwell put wheels in motion for firing Cam"
    fair analysis from Mase. I see this move as trying to catch lightning in a bottle down the stretch.

    Cam wasn't coming back next year, so why delay the inevitable?

    More concerning to me is the hip flexor injury to Ray Rice. Those always take a couple weeks to heal.




  4. #259

    Re: Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Derrick Mason commenting on Twitter:

    "Players makes the O schemes work. What can Caldwell do that cam couldn't?"
    "
    One thing at a time, Mase. One thing at a time.




  5. #260

    Re: Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    i wonder what kindas offense Caldwell will be running? I am so excited to see what he will do
    For this year, I doubt there will be a change to the system. They're still going to be running plays from Cam's playbook. It's just more going to be a matter of what plays are called and when.

    If Cladwell is retained as the OC, then in the offseason, that's when the real changes would come.
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    Re: Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

    Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider

    Thinking internally is that things will be streamlined with Joe Flacco with Jim Caldwell operating as OC/quarterbacks coach

    Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider

    The hope is that communication will be upgraded with Jim Caldwell as offensive coordinator. Hurry-up O expected to return to prominence




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    Re: Coaching Change?

    I won't peg Caldwell as the savior of the offense, but if I see more crossing routes, slants, rub routes, and throws over the middle I'd be satisfied. Don't change the system but tweak it around.




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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    This way they get to see JIm Caldwell up close and personal with the offense.
    Aaron Wilson on Twitter:

    "internal thinking is things will be streamlined with Joe and Caldwell"

    "hope is that communication will be upgraded - hurry up O expected to return to prominence"

    EDIT: see above for direct quotes - I was too slow




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    Re: Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Hopefully, Caldwell shitcans Andy Moeller too.
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  10. #265

    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by bacchys View Post
    The offense doesn't need to be overhauled. There's nothing wrong with the Coryell or the players we have to implement it. What has been wrong for the most part is Cameron's limited use of the playbook and his insistence on running it backwards, especially on the road.

    Oddly enough, yesterday's game had all the things critics have been pointing at as being necessary. Rice ran it 20 times. As a team, the Ravens rushed more than 30 times, counting Flacco's sneaks. But Cameron didn't adjust after Haslett did, and the offense kept trying to run slow-developing routes on third-and-short situations. You don't force the big play in the Coryell. You pound the rock and take what the defense gives you, and when they try to take that away by creeping up, you put it over their heads. For a while yesterday, it worked well. But after they adjust you have to adjust to that. You can't doggedly insist on doing something despite it's not working.
    Exactly. The only way the Ravens are going to win games going forward is to morph into the NE Patriots. Now, I know Flacco is not Brady, but against one of the worst pass defense in the league, they should have been torching them in the second half.

    The Redskins new they were vulnerable to the pass when Flacco threw 3 TDs in the first half. So Haslett went for broke and started blitzing (it was his only option). And the Ravens did not adjust. Start sending Jacoby Jones and Torrey Smith across the middle with quick hitters...do some screens to Rice.

    They should have won yesterday 49-31.




  11. #266

    Re: Coaching Change?

    As soon as they hired Caldwell in the offseason I anticipated this move coming (as did most I'm sure). They didn't want to can Cam in the offseason because they were coming off a great season and were already making changes at Def. Coord....but I wouldn't be shocked if the team had been working on some of Caldwell's stuff all season, here and there. We've got three tough games coming up and no one knows what to expect from a play calling perspective...and that's a huge positive.




  12. #267

    Re: Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

    Aaron Wilson‏@RavensInsider

    Thinking internally is that things will be streamlined with Joe Flacco with Jim Caldwell operating as OC/quarterbacks coach
    Aaron Wilson‏@RavensInsider

    The hope is that communication will be upgraded with Jim Caldwell as offensive coordinator. Hurry-up O expected to return to prominence
    Well, with Peyton killing the defense this wknd, we'll have quite a few possessions to find out.




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    Re: Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    something tells ne Caldwell already has a system in play, it wouldn't surprise me if Joe has been learning Jim's system since the beginning of the season.
    Very good point.

    Heck, Cameron's system, although flawed, isn't impossible to use. It just needs RAN PROPERLY. Take the handcuffs off and let Flacco show what he can do.




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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Called it.

    I'm excited now. The right move for all of the right reasons. Can't wait to see these two work together.




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    Re: Coaching Change?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    Exactly. The only way the Ravens are going to win games going forward is to morph into the NE Patriots. Now, I know Flacco is not Brady, but against one of the worst pass defense in the league, they should have been torching them in the second half.

    The Redskins new they were vulnerable to the pass when Flacco threw 3 TDs in the first half. So Haslett went for broke and started blitzing (it was his only option). And the Ravens did not adjust. Start sending Jacoby Jones and Torrey Smith across the middle with quick hitters...do some screens to Rice.

    They should have won yesterday 49-31.
    This! We never adjust.




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