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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!



    Nothing against Oher. He has an inspirational life history. But he is a bust at the position he was picked in the draft. These are just the facts.

    Now if only they could go back and make a movie called "Blindside" with Jonathan Ogden.




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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    McKinnie may see the field simply out of attrition if Yanda is indeed out.

    And I don't think it's a good thing. Looking at Filmstudy's reports on McKinnie, he's been a hot mess when he's seen the field.

    Combine that and his conditioning, I'm not sure why anyone would clamor for him, Oher's play not withstanding.

    Do you even read his articles? If you (and others that moan about his performance this year) would have actually read them you would realize that for the season he's a combined 42/46 blocks with an aggregate score of around 0.80 to 0.90 per game. I can't tell you he would be playing lights out at that score if he played full time but by the same token you shouldn't be talking about how he's sucked this year when he's scored well when he's been in.


    vs Cin 10/10 1.00/play
    @ Phi 2/2 1.00/play
    vs NE 0/1 -1.00/play
    vs Cle 2/2 1.00/play
    @ KC did not play
    vs Dal 4/4 1.00/play
    @ Hou 17/17 1.00/play
    @ Cle did not play
    vs Oak 5/6 0.67/play
    @ Pit did not play
    @ SD 1/1 1.00/play
    vs PIT 1/3 -0.33/play
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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tspot-D-Ravenator View Post
    It would be terrible to think that our coach would flush the season because of his pride in being right
    He wouldn't. The fact is, though, that he's nowhere near the point at which he'd be "flushing the season." As I explained in another thread, the Ravens will be in the playoffs unless the Bengals & Stealers play to a tie in Week 16 & win their other two remaining games while the Ravens lose out. The Ravens could lose the next 2 games & still be in a position to win the division (& get a home game) by beating the Bengals in week 17. So far as the postseason is concerned, there is no urgency until then.

    The one thing that might--might--cause Harbaugh to insert McKinnie at LT and move Oher over to RT sooner is the Denver pass rush. The one absolutely sure way to bring this season to a screeching halt is to for Joe to go down, & Von Miller & Dumervil are playing so ferociously that he could get (as they say in Scotland) kilt. Yanda's injury just adds to the urgency & provides a convenient rationale.




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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    The reason Oher is at LT is because they want to see if he is their LT or RT of the future since they did use a 1st on him and next year is his contract year and because McKinnie wont be on the team next year so they wanted to see what they had in Oher now to get ready for next year. Yes McKinnie is better than oher but oher is a better long term option due to age and investment and I think he will be a very good LT but needs work and he is getting it this year. THere were games where oher looked lights out and games where he gets beat.

    What amazes me is that the only time we bash him is when he gets beat and sometimes the sack or fumble is not his fault. I cant blame oher for Flacco holding onto the ball too long. EVERY LT gets beat once a game at least how come we always bash oher when Joe Thomas has gotten beat times in games and I dont see clowns fans bashing him.

    McKinnie is not out of shape I have seen him as well and he looks in decent shape for someone of his size




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    Tony and others who have seen practices first hand have commented all year long that McKinnie's been sucking wind at practice.

    But whatever. Just don't start complaining when he's in and they have to abandon the sugar huddle because he can't keep up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Tony and others who have seen practices first hand have commented all year long that McKinnie's been sucking wind at practice.

    But whatever. Just don't start complaining when he's in and they have to abandon the sugar huddle because he can't keep up.
    The press gets a whole 30 minutes of practice. So I don't buy into that. I'll go with Filmstudy seeing it on the field.

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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny8444 View Post
    The reason Oher is at LT is because they want to see if he is their LT or RT of the future since they did use a 1st on him and next year is his contract year and because McKinnie wont be on the team next year so they wanted to see what they had in Oher now to get ready for next year. Yes McKinnie is better than oher but oher is a better long term option due to age and investment and I think he will be a very good LT but needs work and he is getting it this year. THere were games where oher looked lights out and games where he gets beat.

    What amazes me is that the only time we bash him is when he gets beat and sometimes the sack or fumble is not his fault. I cant blame oher for Flacco holding onto the ball too long. EVERY LT gets beat once a game at least how come we always bash oher when Joe Thomas has gotten beat times in games and I dont see clowns fans bashing him.

    McKinnie is not out of shape I have seen him as well and he looks in decent shape for someone of his size
    I don't think the Ravens see Oher as a problem at left tackle. Everyone else in the universe does, but the people that count don't. If they don't recognize it as a problem, then they aren't going to give him any help over there and Flacco is going to continue to feel the pressure behind him.




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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Tony and others who have seen practices first hand have commented all year long that McKinnie's been sucking wind at practice.

    But whatever. Just don't start complaining when he's in and they have to abandon the sugar huddle because he can't keep up.
    Sugar huddle? Do they still do that?




  9. Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    Sugar huddle? Do they still do that?
    Sorry Houston....




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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    I don't think the Ravens see Oher as a problem at left tackle. Everyone else in the universe does, but the people that count don't. If they don't recognize it as a problem, then they aren't going to give him any help over there and Flacco is going to continue to feel the pressure behind him.
    it pisses me off when we try to run deep routes Oher/KO dont get any help from RB/TE




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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny8444 View Post
    Yes McKinnie is better than oher but oher is a better long term option due to age and investment and I think he will be a very good LT but needs work and he is getting it this year. THere were games where oher looked lights out and games where he gets beat.
    Show me another LT in the NFL who is about 6' 4" with short arms...who is strong against speed rushers.

    You know what? I'll save you the trouble of checking, because there aren't any. Unfortunately for Oher, he is trying to play one of the positions in the NFL where SIZE REALLY MATTERS.
    Expecting Oher to be a great LT is like expecting a guy who's 6" 8' to be dominant in the NBA...as a center. Which is why in the NBA, guys who are that height are forwards.
    And why in the NFL, O-lineman that are Oher's size are guards or centers.




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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    The Dumb side has got to go. He commits to many penalties and when he should commit a penalty when he is beaten badly he doesnt and Flacco gets hit from behind and fumbles. Oher is ok at Rt but should not be playing LT. Mckinnie cant do any worse give him a shot, there is no way he can make the $1M incentive so just play him




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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    McKinnie may see the field simply out of attrition if Yanda is indeed out.

    And I don't think it's a good thing. Looking at Filmstudy's reports on McKinnie, he's been a hot mess when he's seen the field.

    Combine that and his conditioning, I'm not sure why anyone would clamor for him, Oher's play not withstanding.



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    Re: Put McKinnie in the game Harbaugh!!

    Quote Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74 View Post
    Show me another LT in the NFL who is about 6' 4" with short arms...who is strong against speed rushers.

    You know what? I'll save you the trouble of checking, because there aren't any. Unfortunately for Oher, he is trying to play one of the positions in the NFL where SIZE REALLY MATTERS.
    Expecting Oher to be a great LT is like expecting a guy who's 6" 8' to be dominant in the NBA...as a center. Which is why in the NBA, guys who are that height are forwards.
    And why in the NFL, O-lineman that are Oher's size are guards or centers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    Sugar huddle? Do they still do that?
    I guess you missed yesterday's game?
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