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  1. #76

    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?



    20 coaches wont make the playoffs. four who do will lose on wildcard weekend. Do you see 3/4ths of the teams in the league fire their coach every season?

    Harbaugh isnt going anywhere. You would have to be delusional to even entertain the thought. Or just have a very poor grasp of how professional sports teams operate.




  2. #77

    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlar View Post
    20 coaches wont make the playoffs. four who do will lose on wildcard weekend. Do you see 3/4ths of the teams in the league fire their coach every season?

    Harbaugh isnt going anywhere. You would have to be delusional to even entertain the thought. Or just have a very poor grasp of how professional sports teams operate.
    Billick was fired under similar circumstances, has he lost the team? Coaches usually grow stale in 5-7 years. except great ones like Belicheat. The act grows old on the players. This is what we are talking about an EPIC collapse. 9-2 to 9-8, with a home playoff loss to rookie QB from INDY.




  3. #78

    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlar View Post
    20 coaches wont make the playoffs. four who do will lose on wildcard weekend. Do you see 3/4ths of the teams in the league fire their coach every season?

    Harbaugh isnt going anywhere. You would have to be delusional to even entertain the thought. Or just have a very poor grasp of how professional sports teams operate.
    Coaches who have lost playoff games have been canned in the past.




  4. #79

    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

    Ya know, I've had the OP on ignore for quite some time now so I can't read anything he's posted in this thread.

    Bet I can guess.

    -Ravens need to lose in order to get rid of Harbaugh.
    -Harbaugh sucks.
    -He really hopes the Ravens lose the rest of their games so Harbaugh will get fired.

    That about sum it up?

    As a side note, this forum used to be one of the most intelligent places on the net for Raven's talk. Now we have idiotic threads like this one popping up all over the place.
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  5. #80

    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderraven View Post
    Coaches who have lost playoff games have been canned in the past.
    And most of those teams came to regret it. Every single team who fired Marty Schottenheimer didn't take long to go down the crapper. The 49ers collapsed immediately after they let Steve Mariucci go. The Raiders fell apart one year after Al Davis traded Jon Gruden. The Oilers hit rock bottom almost immediately after firing Bum Phillips.

    But the grass is always greener on the other side, right?




  6. #81

    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

    No, he shouldn't.

    Yet.

    But he better realize he is in danger of losing the player's faith in him by constantly blaming them to cover for his and Cam's deficiencies.

    No more "the players need to execute"
    The players have reached the point where they don't want to hear that BS anymore.




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    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

    I don't think you can make a credible argument to fire him after the extenuating circumstances that have been our ridiculous injuries this season.

    Every team deals with injuries, but it's rare that nearly every 'star' player on a team gets hurt and misses a lot of time, to the extent we've been starting so many low round picks and bargain basement FA's. You could even make the argument that to do so and still remain competitive is actually a positive for Harbaugh.

    I do think there are a lot of things he has done wrong (not least retaining Cam, but that's for another thousand threads another time), but when it all boils down to it he's done a pretty decent job. And you can't punish a man responsible for raising the standards so high in terms of consequtive playoff appearances that they are on the best run in the league.
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    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

    Look, I'm a huge Harbaugh supporter. I think he's been exactly what we needed to turn things around after Billick...

    If we lose six straight, he won't get fired, that's not Bisciotti's MO. But, he'll be on the hot seat. That kind of collapse is one that transcends normal circumstances. If we had battled all year, going back and worth, and ended up 8-8, we would've said "okay, we were due for a tough year. Let's just try and come back next year"...

    This team was 9-2. Let that sink in. We sat at 9-2. Yes, I know we face a murder's row at the end, but does that really matter? Do you want to think of your coach/team like "Well, they could've won if they faced easier teams, but they faced good ones, so oh well?" NO! You want to look at your team like "win or lose, let's make sure we've got a shot each week and play with some level of pride". Now, these Ravens, on some level, HAVE done that. We've only been blown out once, by Houston. Vs Steelers and Redskins, we were in it until the last drive or two. We had some good moments in those games. But in the end, you have the same piddly mistakes that continue to cost us games. If we have a coach who, rather than take those mistakes by the horn and wrestle the bull to the ground, instead goes "well, next time, maybe those mistakes don't matter. Instead, let's keep doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING WE DO EVERY WEEK and see how it turns out"? Then it could very well be time to start thinking about change.

    Either him changing his views/ways he coaches, or finding someone who WILL address those problems.
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  9. #84

    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

    I really dont get the hate for Harbs. Even those that say "its because he hasnt fired Cam", as much as I hate Cam, you cant fire him when you have a lock out and cant get a new offense in place, and you cant fire him when hes gotten you 1 dropped/defended pass away from the SB. Even this year as much as I dislike the guy, we have the 9th highest scoring offense. Those 28 pts we put up, should have been enough to beat, on average, every team in the league except the Pats. the inconsistency is infuriating but hes still getting results that should lead to winning football. If half of our starting defense wasnt out, maybe Pees would be better, or at least good enough to win these last two and were looking at 11-2 instead of 9-4. we end up 12-4 or even 11-5 (one game off last year), with the injuries we have, Harbs probably gets an extension not fired.
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    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

    Quote Originally Posted by darb72 View Post
    Ya know, I've had the OP on ignore for quite some time now so I can't read anything he's posted in this thread.

    Bet I can guess.

    -Ravens need to lose in order to get rid of Harbaugh.
    -Harbaugh sucks.
    -He really hopes the Ravens lose the rest of their games so Harbaugh will get fired.

    That about sum it up?

    As a side note, this forum used to be one of the most intelligent places on the net for Raven's talk. Now we have idiotic threads like this one popping up all over the place.


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    Re: Should Harbs gets fired if the lose out and lose first playoff game?

    4 straight years in the playoffs
    3 years since back to back losses.
    Lost Redding, Grubbs, JJ, to FA
    Lost Webb, Suggs (never 100%), Lewis, Smith for large chunks
    Reed, Ngata, Ellerbe, Yanda, McPhee and others have spent lots of time being gimpy
    Current record with all that considered 9-4
    Yea lets fire that guy

    What is the OP smoking????? Seriously??? Even if he were 5-8 considering the number injuries to key players ...I would let that slide this year.
    Honestly I think if you really really sit down and look at the losses this team has taken since last season....9-4 with this squad might be his best coaching job yet....but yea lets fire him.
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    We don't need two threads that are about whether or not to fire Harbs so they've been merged ....
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  13. #88

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by bacchys View Post
    The Ravens rushed the ball 30 times (not counting Flacco's rushes) against the Redskins, but drives stalled out in the second half because when we did have to make a third down, every route was either a slower-developing out route or down the field. There's no misdirection, no quick routes, and it doesn't look like the Ravens have any "hot reads" for Flacco and the receivers to miscommunicate on. Even when a blitz is obvious, the receivers are still running a curl, out-route, or streak.

    There are problems in execution, but that's not the entirety of the problem. Simply executing isn't enough: the coaches have to put the players in a position where they can succeed.
    I think the 3rd and 6 in OT, where the line breaks down (again) and Flaccos scrambling for his life to find a WR, any WR, and its plain as day that there isnt one within the 15 yards on the screen, let alone open is a good example of whats going on. Why the hell we keep sending everyone deep on 3rd and manageable and obvious blitzing situation is beyond comprehension.

    Flacco 16/21 182 3 tds 1 int
    rice 20 121
    pierce 8 53

    pretty obvious the offense was working but failed in critical situations because of the above scenarios where we werent put in position to succeed.
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    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    I think the 3rd and 6 in OT, where the line breaks down (again) and Flaccos scrambling for his life to find a WR, any WR, and its plain as day that there isnt one within the 15 yards on the screen, let alone open is a good example of whats going on. Why the hell we keep sending everyone deep on 3rd and manageable and obvious blitzing situation is beyond comprehension.

    Flacco 16/21 182 3 tds 1 int
    rice 20 121
    pierce 8 53

    pretty obvious the offense was working but failed in critical situations because of the above scenarios where we werent put in position to succeed.
    How many damn times are we going to see 3rd down situations where the only open guy is Pitta, Rice, or LEach on bleed out routes that are substantially shorter than the 3rd down marker? There were at least 3 3rd down situations yesterday where Flacco went right to Pitta and/or Rice/Leach and they couldn't pick up the 3rd down.

    I'm just saying, the situation is kind of fucked from the start. The OL can't give him more than 3-4 seconds on avg to get the ball out and the receivers aren't getting open down the field, so he HAS to get the ball out quickly...and more often than not that is to Pitta or Rice.

    This has been a big problem all year.
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  15. #90

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    I like the way that Harbaugh runs the team. I am not a fan of his offensive philosophy. He and his brother want to run Big Ten offenses Circa 1980.

    I would be thrilled to death with Harbaugh if he brought in an OC to implement a modern offense and left his fingerprints off of it.

    Not sold on Pees. He does not seem to make good in game adjustments. Defense plays well and then other team makes adjustments and he does not seem to be able counter.

    That being said if Harbaugh truly is a top 10 coach he will fire the OC, Oline coach and wr coach immediately after the season. If he brings Cam and Moeller back he is not a top 10 coach.




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