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  1. #16

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous



    I'd put Harbaugh in the middle of the pack of head coaches in the NFL. Top 5? Yeah right, top 10 is stretching it too. He makes some terrible decisions as a HC, for example keeping around Cam Cameron and getting Dean Piss hired




  2. #17

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by landspeed View Post
    Wow you this is hilarious

    I read "we have to get rid of other" and decided with that alone that this is just completely wrong.

    Michael oher is a top 5 RT.

    It is not his fault that he is put in the wrong position.

    That right there is harbaughs fault.

    You people make these issues to be so black and white
    Huh? Michael Oher should not be in the NFL.




  3. #18

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    Huh? Michael Oher should not be in the NFL.
    Hyperbole much?

    He's not a LT or even ideal for a RT, but he would be a dominant guard.




  4. #19

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74 View Post
    but he would be a dominant guard.
    How can you make such statement when he has never played there? He isn't big enough to block DTs.




  5. #20

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    But this team has two big problems.

    1) Cam. Duh. He obviously needs to go and I'm having trouble seeing a scenario that doesn't end in the Ravens in the Super Bowl where Cam comes back next year.

    2) This team has a personnel deficit. Certainly the OL is awful. Oher and Birk almost have to be replaced. LG is a huge hole. Osemele needs to develop but he's not playing well right now. Yanda's the only decent OL and he may now be injured.


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    Harbs has stuck by Cam when he should have dumped him two years ago, so Cam and Harbs are attached IMO.

    He offloads the defensive and offensive gameplans to his DC & OC, so he is a game manager type coach... Fine... but you better be a good one. Last two weeks... No balls at the end of the 1Hs to try to get a FG when they had about 1min both times with 2TOs. Horrible challenge against Pitt. And that stupid fake punt formation TO today... Come On... If you're not gonna fake it, take the fricking Delay of Game... That was flatout stupid. He is not a good manager of TOs.

    Seriously, I don't really see where you have proof Harbs is a great coach on the areas he is responsible for. The players have been pretty damn good while he's here. He is an ok coach at best. And if he had the coaching acumen, he wouldnt have let it get this bad with Cam.




  6. #21

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    I think this is what needs to be considered. when he was hired the Ravens had a lot of talent on defense and that's how they won their games. Basically, for the first few years, they won in spite of him, not because of him. Now, we have a void in talent on defense, so we need good coaching to win. If we need to rely on our coaching staff to prepare the team, we are in trouble.
    When he was hired the Ravens were coming off a 5-11 season. But nah, he was totally a detriment.




  7. #22

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    When he was hired the Ravens were coming off a 5-11 season. But nah, he was totally a detriment.
    He took over an already good team that was entirely injured the previous season.




  8. #23

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    When he was hired the Ravens were coming off a 5-11 season. But nah, he was totally a detriment.
    The team was 5-11 because Bilick lost the team, hopefully it's same this year with Harbaugh.




  9. #24

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by seraph View Post
    He took over an already good team that was entirely injured the previous season.
    Injured...you mean like the team this year? The one that isn't going 5-11?




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    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Look their are things that Harbaugh could do differently or should do that he has not IMO. None of those things are egregious enough to consider firing him for IMO. Bottom line is that considering we lost JJ, Redding, Webb, Smith, Ellerbe, Suggs, and Ray Lewis for a good bit or key parts of the year has to be considered. You have to have horses in order to race...the Ravens horses are gimpy at best and not in racing shape. The fact that despite these losses and an offense that is inconsistent at best we are 9-4 .....thats a credit to Harbaugh. A lot of teams might have just collapsed.

    The whole Cam thing is my main beef with Harbaugh. If he fires him, well I am just fine with Harbs. If he keeps him however....well at that point his fate will be tied to Cam moving forward. He will not have the "one dropped pass from the Super Bowl" excuse to keep Cam around this year while distancing himself from the results of keeping him.
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  11. #26

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    When he was hired the Ravens were coming off a 5-11 season. But nah, he was totally a detriment.
    and 13-3 just the year before.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    Injured...you mean like the team this year? The one that isn't going 5-11?
    Nice.
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  13. #28

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by Bawlamer View Post
    It falls on John not Cam. If John is too stupid to see it then he should be the first to go. However, I'm still not convinced that slow Joe is the answer either. When catastrophe hits Joe is almost always in the picture.
    Thats because he is the quarterback.

    Its not warranted, because he is a great QB being restricted by an overly conservative and extremely constraining coaching staff.

    Quarterback is going to take the heat on any team.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    Injured...you mean like the team this year? The one that isn't going 5-11?


    Lets not mention anything that diffuses the little temper tantrum of the fans running around acting like 3 y.o.

    Harbaugh wins .....its not his talent and he got lucky to have it
    He loses ...its all his fault.
    Let not let common sense get in the way of pouting
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  15. #30

    Re: Calls to fire Harbaugh are ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    Injured...you mean like the team this year? The one that isn't going 5-11?
    This team also doesnt have Kyle Boller at the helm.




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