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    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    If Tavon Austin fell into the Ravens' lap, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, either. He would be a quick, fast nightmare for defenses from the slot, and as much as many don't want to think about the possibilities of cap casualties, he could end up being cheap option as punt/kick returner as well. Not necessarily the ideal early pick, but it would strengthen the Ravens.
    I love Austin...a ton...and it would be awesome for a hometown kid to blow up here.

    But any WR other than Keenan Allen in the first would be a big mistake IMHO.

    If we look for a short, fast slot guy, I really like Marquise Goodwin out of Texas in the mid rounds.

    Back to the safety discussion, one guy that I really liked early on that not many are talking about is Baccari Rambo. Opinions?



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    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I really like this thread, because lots of you follow the college game much more closely than I can (working 70 hrs/wk and every Sat is a drawback).

    However, why the focus on WR? Surely (don't call me Shirley) we have much greater needs at NT/DT, LT, ILB, OL depth, pass rusher, S, etc ad nauseum.

    I'd love to see you guys focus a bit on who we could get when we pick to fill some of those needs. Thanks for all the great info!




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by houstonravensfan View Post
    I really like this thread, because lots of you follow the college game much more closely than I can (working 70 hrs/wk and every Sat is a drawback).

    However, why the focus on WR? Surely (don't call me Shirley) we have much greater needs at NT/DT, LT, ILB, OL depth, pass rusher, S, etc ad nauseum.

    I'd love to see you guys focus a bit on who we could get when we pick to fill some of those needs. Thanks for all the great info!
    I don't think the Ravens would go for a receiver early on in the draft, but I wouldn't be shocked to see them looking at a receiving TE or a receiver in the mid-to-late rounds.

    Boldin is going to be 33 and may wind up as a cap casualty (hope this doesn't happen).
    Jacoby is due for a $4 mill cap hit and may wind up as a cap casualty.
    Doss has shown some flashes of being a solid contributor, but has also made some errors (2 dropped would-be TD passes against the Colts for example).
    D. Thompson has a lot of upside, but is raw.
    D. Reed can't stay healthy and might not be tendered after this season.
    LaQuan has shown flashes of being a solid possession guy, but he has a low ceiling.
    Tommy Streeter is talented and athletic for a 6'5" 220lb guy, but he sucks at running routes. Who knows where he'll wind up.

    So, other than Torrey, the only legitimate starters we have on the books are Jacoby and Boldin. Both of which could just as easily wind up not on the team due to $$$.

    When looking at things from that perspective, it makes sense to check out some receivers in the mid to late rounds (and there are some nice prospects too). This is actually a pretty good year for receivers.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by houstonravensfan View Post
    why the focus on WR? Surely (don't call me Shirley) we have much greater needs at NT/DT, LT, ILB, OL depth, pass rusher, S, etc ad nauseum
    The Ravens do have a lot of needs, but they also have 11 draft picks (7 rounds, plus 4 compensatory). That gives them a lot of opportunities to draft a lot of players. They are going to need another WR who can contribute, because the likelihood of either Anquan Boldin or Jacoby Jones (or both) being cap casualties is pretty good. They just can't pay everyone, so they are going to have to rely on the draft. I'm just not sure Tandon Doss, Tommy Streeter, Laquan Williams or David Reed are going to do it for the offense. Flacco needs more weapons than just Torrey Smith and Dennis Pitta. The Ravens are going to have to target a WR at some point - or get a cheap one via free agency - if they can't get Jones or Boldin on the cheap.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Am I the only one that things the Ravens are going to try and work something out to keep Boldin? Of course on a restructured deal, but when our offence plays consistently and with the routes that have been played lately he is the PERFECT compliment to Torrey (Note the first Smith TD vs Denver, Bolding on the corssing route forced the safety up). I don't know I would LOVE to see him here another year, yes he's old, but we have more dire needs at OT, MLB and S before WR. I'd even go as far to say DL is higher than WR




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I love Austin...a ton...and it would be awesome for a hometown kid to blow up here.

    But any WR other than Keenan Allen in the first would be a big mistake IMHO.

    If we look for a short, fast slot guy, I really like Marquise Goodwin out of Texas in the mid rounds.

    Back to the safety discussion, one guy that I really liked early on that not many are talking about is Baccari Rambo. Opinions?



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    IMO, Baccari Rambo is the closest thing to an Ed Reed ball hawk type safety, I like him too, but he has character concerns. I wouldn't mind Rambo in the first or second row.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Not sure what the cost would be, but there are going to be some decent FA options for safety...

    Dashon Goldson, Jairus Byrd, and maybe Louis Delmas.

    All are solid/decent free safeties and probably won't command a ton of money.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Not sure what the cost would be, but there are going to be some decent FA options for safety...

    Dashon Goldson, Jairus Byrd, and maybe Louis Delmas.

    All are solid/decent free safeties and probably won't command a ton of money.
    The Bills are probably going to make Jairus Byrd the highest paid safety in football. He's been a top 3 or top 5 safety in the league since his rookie year and he's only like 26.

    Dashon Goldson... I'm not sure about. I personally don't think he's worth a top-tier contract, but some team is going to throw a good bit of money at him. I doubt the Ravens can keep up.

    Louis Delmas is a good player, but he's even more of an injury risk than Kenny Phillips, and Phillips is the superior player. I'd be happy with either of those guys, though. Safety is IMO the Ravens' #1 offseason priority. Unless they re-sign Ed Reed, which I don't see happening, they literally don't have anybody with NFL experience at the position. That's not true for any of the other holes on the roster... even at OL and ILB, at least they have guys with NFL experience who could step in if all else fails.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Not sure what the cost would be, but there are going to be some decent FA options for safety...

    Dashon Goldson, Jairus Byrd, and maybe Louis Delmas.

    All are solid/decent free safeties and probably won't command a ton of money.
    I don't think we are going to have any money to pay any of those guys.

    Any additions we make are likely to be cheap vets.

    We are going to struggle just to re-sign Ellerbe and Kruger.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    We need to draft Bacardi* Rambo. The name is too awesome to pass up. We will never win another game ever, ever again if we pass on this guy.

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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    The Bills are probably going to make Jairus Byrd the highest paid safety in football. He's been a top 3 or top 5 safety in the league since his rookie year and he's only like 26.

    Dashon Goldson... I'm not sure about. I personally don't think he's worth a top-tier contract, but some team is going to throw a good bit of money at him. I doubt the Ravens can keep up.

    Louis Delmas is a good player, but he's even more of an injury risk than Kenny Phillips, and Phillips is the superior player. I'd be happy with either of those guys, though. Safety is IMO the Ravens' #1 offseason priority. Unless they re-sign Ed Reed, which I don't see happening, they literally don't have anybody with NFL experience at the position. That's not true for any of the other holes on the roster... even at OL and ILB, at least they have guys with NFL experience who could step in if all else fails.
    I keep forgetting about Kenny Phillips.

    I'd love for the Ravens to pick him up. Good player.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I don't think we are going to have any money to pay any of those guys.

    Any additions we make are likely to be cheap vets.

    We are going to struggle just to re-sign Ellerbe and Kruger.
    I previously thought that the Ravens were pretty likely to go out and sign a FA defender this offseason... maybe not a big-contract type of signing, but somebody who could step in and immediately start. Kenny Phillips, Daryl Smith, and Terrence Knighton were all guys I had on a short list.

    But now that it really looks clear how dire our cap situation is going to be... I doubt we go out and sign anybody from off the market unless Ozzie works some serious magic. Ellerbe and/or Kruger, maybe... but they might need to make some tough cuts to get even ONE of those guys under contract in addition to Flacco, and they might not even be able to get one of them much less both.

    At this point, it looks likely to me that this team won't be signing anybody but veteran-minimum guys outside of our own guys, IF we can even do that. Realistically they're going to need not less than 2 or 3 rookies from their upcoming draft class to come in and immediately start. That's part of the reason why this draft class is one of the most important in Ravens' history... although thankfully we have more than enough picks to make a real impact.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Remember all those amazing stories about Te'o having to overcome the death of his grandmother and girlfriend?

    Well, apparently Te'o made up the entire story of his dead girlfriend ....

    http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-te...ium=socialflow

    Does this hurt his draft stock?
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Remember all those amazing stories about Te'o having to overcome the death of his grandmother and girlfriend?

    Well, apparently Te'o made up the entire story of his dead girlfriend ....

    http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-te...ium=socialflow

    Does this hurt his draft stock?


    If anything it definitely calls into question his integrity




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