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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I tell you what...the more I've been watching Ellerbe play this year, the less of a huge need at ILB I think we have...he just has to get better in his drops and zone awareness and I think we'd have a stud.

    I still think we should take another ILB though in the first 3 rounds as I think we should let McClain go.
    I think Ellerbe and Arthur Brown would be an impressive duo inside, i would still double dip at LB because i think we need multiple guys that can operate in space but i'd take a 2nd guy later in the draft like the 5th round take can give us depth in the nickel. But Ellerbe seems to have put it all together, he's been terrific, hopefully its been under the radar, im gonna be pissed if we hold on to Mcclain or not cut a vet and dont have a shot to keep Ellerbe and Kruger.




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    With Ellerbe as one starter I'd like a rangy LB next to him. Ogletree fits great but I'm still trying to find a couple of 3rd-5th value guys. Anyone?
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    With Ellerbe as one starter I'd like a rangy LB next to him. Ogletree fits great but I'm still trying to find a couple of 3rd-5th value guys. Anyone?
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    With Ellerbe as one starter I'd like a rangy LB next to him. Ogletree fits great but I'm still trying to find a couple of 3rd-5th value guys. Anyone?
    Andrew Jackson, check his clips against Alabama. Run stuffer is the definition of this guy.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    Arthur brown. I'm firmly on his bandwagon
    Watched his tape vs Texas tech, and he looked awful as a run defender. I counted like 8 miss tackles where he got blown out the way by Olinemen, has some upside as a nikel LB who can drop back, plus he made a nice interception at the end, but unless we go into a full time 4-3 scheme, he is about as bad as you can get for a 3-4 ILB fit.




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    ^Raveninwoodlawn kinda opened my eyes to Jonathan Bostic from Florida, i think he could be had in the 3rd. Gerald Hodges i also think could be had in the 3rd, not near as rangy as the Ogletree's and Brown's but i think he could get the job done and be an upgrade over what we have currently as far as cover guys. Kevin Reddick is probably a 4th round guy, has the potential but never played at the level many hoped. After that i see alot of guys that i think might struggle to shed blocks in a 34 or are more thumper types like what we have already. I definetely feel we need to get another nickel LB in that 4th to 5th round range after securing a Brown or Ogletree earlier. I dont think the guy necessarily has to be a guy that projects as a 3 down player at any point. I'd take a SS conversion type guy like Kenny Tate and tell him just worry about covering TE's and backs on 3rd and be an all pro ST performer.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Yeah I'd give up a ton to get Te'o, but if not than Ogletree in the 2nd, next to Ellerbe would be sufficient. Or give up some to land a Fisher to kick Oher inside to LG.




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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    Arthur brown. I'm firmly on his bandwagon
    He's my favorite player in this draft, he never has to leave the field, undersized but has the instincts and strength to take on blockers, move thru the trash and make plays but also can excel in coverage. Love the guy as a player.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Watched his tape vs Texas tech, and he looked awful as a run defender. I counted like 8 miss tackles where he got blown out the way by Olinemen, has some upside as a nikel LB who can drop back, plus he made a nice interception at the end, but unless we go into a full time 4-3 scheme, he is about as bad as you can get for a 3-4 ILB fit.
    He will have guy's like Ngata, hopefully Knighton(crosses fingers lol) in front of him. Is Jones a thumper? No, but i think he can do well enough to not be a liability inside as well as get to the perimeter on runs that are guys(besides Ellerbe)havent shown the ability to get to. I think he'd be just fine in the 34, i.e. Navarro Bowman.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Andrew Jackson, check his clips against Alabama. Run stuffer is the definition of this guy.
    I like Jackson a lot. He's a collider! Not sure about his pass coverage though...but I didn't make that clear above.
    I'm trying to find a rangey coverage LB. Doesn't have to be long like Ogletree, since I think he's kind of rare anyway (being a SS convert). Which reminds me of a thought/post I had/made about 2 months ago: Could Christian Thompson + 15 lbs = coverage LB?

    Back to Jackson...he plays tonight or Wednesday. Set the DVR before I left town. Looking forward to watching him.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    ^Raveninwoodlawn kinda opened my eyes to Jonathan Bostic from Florida, i think he could be had in the 3rd. Gerald Hodges i also think could be had in the 3rd, not near as rangy as the Ogletree's and Brown's but i think he could get the job done and be an upgrade over what we have currently as far as cover guys. Kevin Reddick is probably a 4th round guy, has the potential but never played at the level many hoped. After that i see alot of guys that i think might struggle to shed blocks in a 34 or are more thumper types like what we have already. I definetely feel we need to get another nickel LB in that 4th to 5th round range after securing a Brown or Ogletree earlier. I dont think the guy necessarily has to be a guy that projects as a 3 down player at any point. I'd take a SS conversion type guy like Kenny Tate and tell him just worry about covering TE's and backs on 3rd and be an all pro ST performer.
    I really like Hodges...I actually like him more than Ogletree...Ogletree is more athletic but Hodges is no slouch...and I think Hodges is more willing to get physical than Ogletree.

    I still like Bostic as maybe an option in the 3rd or 4th.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Alec Ogletree isn't all that IMO. Did anyone watch the SEC game? He looked awful at times in run defense. I think there are better guys to go for than him which can offer as much value/more value in the 2nd-3rd rounds.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I'm still in favor of selling the farm and going up to grab Te'o, but I think most likely thing is grabbing Jones or Chase Wormack, then trying to nab CJ Mosley (I could see Oz trading a third or something to move up in the second).

    Mosley's coverage ability combined with Ellerbe's physical presence would make a combo I think a lot of us would be happy with. And I like the idea of Upshaw being able to play with a fellow Bama alum, might give them some good chemistry.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenalytics View Post
    I'm still in favor of selling the farm and going up to grab Te'o, but I think most likely thing is grabbing Jones or Chase Wormack, then trying to nab CJ Mosley (I could see Oz trading a third or something to move up in the second).

    Mosley's coverage ability combined with Ellerbe's physical presence would make a combo I think a lot of us would be happy with. And I like the idea of Upshaw being able to play with a fellow Bama alum, might give them some good chemistry.
    CJ Moseley is going back to school.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I'm also a big fan of Terrence Knighton, and if we're committed to staying a 3-4 scheme on defense, we seriously need to get an upgrade at NT, Knighton could be that guy being a natural fit as a 3-4 NT. I watched the Jags game, and he was constantly in Brady's face all day.




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