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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I would take Murray in the 4th round, so he can be an insurance player if Flacco continues to regress, or so he can push a potential replacement for Flacco for the starting QB job. I think Murray has potential to be a starter on a ball controlled offence, similar to the Alabama kid.
    Yea, I too like AJ McCarron...not sure he is NFL starter quality though. Definitely a game manager. He'd be a nice back up. He is returning to Alabama though.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Yea, I too like AJ McCarron...not sure he is NFL starter quality though. Definitely a game manager. He'd be a nice back up. He is returning to Alabama though.
    Yeah, he isn't anything special, but good value in rounds 3 or 4.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I've seen some of Dysert and he is interesting. I would be cool with them taking a flier later in the draft. He's pretty mobile for a guy his size. I'm afraid that coming out of Miami of Ohio people will automatically assume that he'll be as good as Roethlisberger, and I don't see that kind of ability there.

    I like Murray because he puts really nice tough on his passes and he's an intelligent player. He takes care of the football as well and it isn't like Georgia has top notch receivers anymore. Tarvares King is "ok", but that's really about it...

    Regarding Tuel - I think he is a big, strong QB who could be similar to a Chad Henne kind of player. He'd be a decent guy to have compete for a back up spot. Washington State hasn't been very good since...well...since Mark Brunnell or Drew Bledsoe were there. So, it is kind of hard to gauge how good Tuel could be.

    Before he got busted for off-field stuff, Casey Pachal out of TCU was looking like a good prospect.
    Dysert doesn't have an elite arm like Roethlisberger and doesn't have his kind of strength to break tackles and avoid sacks. He is mobile and a better scrambler than one would think though. I do think Dysert is mentally way ahead of where Roethlisberger was when he came out. Dysert makes NFL style reads and audibles in that offense, even though it's a spread he's obviously familiar with some pro concepts. I think Dysert is going to rise on draft boards as we get closer to the draft.

    Ryan Nassib out of Syracuse is a similar player to Dysert, but his mechanics are pretty bad. His delivery is very ugly and he has no footwork at all. He has talent to work with though, if he can sit for a year or two and get coached up by a good QB guru he could be pretty good.

    Derek Carr (David Carr's little brother, also out of Fresno State) looks like a good prospect as long as his last name isn't held against him. I think he's going back to school, though.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    One thing I'm focusing on really tightly in my QB evaluation now is placing a lot of weight on how a prospect plays when his OL is breaking down, WRs are dropping passes, etc... basically when everything is going wrong. I'm valuing QBs more when they play well under those conditions and de-emphasizing their play not under pressure and when all is well.
    I do track mechanics and discipline when things fall apart, but not so much series-by-series and across the game, and noticing greater trends. Good tip though. I'll fold that in as well.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Hopefully Tommy Streeter can really develop...man it would be nice to have a 6'5" 220lb guy down around the red zone.
    Would love Torrey, Dennis, Tommy and mid-rounder TE Zach Sudfeld (Nevada) in the RZ for us in 2013. Doss is my guy and probably has a slightly greater radius than Torrey, but only with an empty backfield could I get him on the field here. Nice (fantasy) problem to have.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Just to further look at how poorly the front office has done since taking Joe and Rice in 2008...

    2009 Draft - Oher, Kruger, Webb, Phillips, Drew, Peerman.
    Oher is average at best, Kruger is a situational pass rusher, who is pretty good now and a FA after this year, and Webb was an outstanding pick. The rest of the guys are either out of league or depth players elsewhere.
    2009 Guys they passed over: Vontae Davis, Clay Matthews, Eric Wood, Hakeem Nicks, Louis Delmas, Patrick Chung, Jairus Byrd, Max Unger, Andy Levitre, William Moore, Sebastian Vollmer, Chris Clemons, Brice McCain.

    2010 Draft - Kindle, Cody, Dickson, Pitta, Reed, Jones, Harewood
    Kindle is a bust, Cody is a bust, Dickson is a bust, Pitta is solid, but nothing special, Reed can't stay healthy, Jones is finally coming on as a strong DL'man, and Harewood is depth with serious injury concerns.
    2010 Guys they passed over: Devin McCourty, Patrick Robinson, Rob Gronkowski, Zane Beadles, Linval Joseph, Darryl Washington, Carlos Dunlap, Sean Lee, Ben Tate, Brandon Spikes, Pat Angerer, John Asamoah, Jared Veldheer, Donald Butler, Emmanuel Sanders, Eric Decker, Andre Roberts, Navorro Bowman, Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernandez, Geno Atkins, Kam Chancellor, Riley Cooper, and Antonio Brown.

    2011 Draft - It is too early to tell...not sure what Jimmy Smith can become, but Torrey, McPhee, Chykie, Doss, and even Jah seem to be (at the very least) contributors.

    However, the 2009 and 2010 drafts...those are big mysteries to me. There was A LOT of talent left on the board. I really would like to know why the Ravens scouted these players differently than other teams...
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    What many had suspected...Nix is staying in school (misleading link name).

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ix-enter-draft




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    What many had suspected...Nix is staying in school (misleading link name).

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ix-enter-draft
    I think a lot of those Notre Dame boys who are underclassmen are going to return.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Just to further look at how poorly the front office has done since taking Joe and Rice in 2008...

    2009 Draft - Oher, Kruger, Webb, Phillips, Drew, Peerman.
    Oher is average at best, Kruger is a situational pass rusher, who is pretty good now and a FA after this year, and Webb was an outstanding pick. The rest of the guys are either out of league or depth players elsewhere.
    2009 Guys they passed over: Vontae Davis, Clay Matthews, Eric Wood, Hakeem Nicks, Louis Delmas, Patrick Chung, Jairus Byrd, Max Unger, Andy Levitre, William Moore, Sebastian Vollmer, Chris Clemons, Brice McCain.

    2010 Draft - Kindle, Cody, Dickson, Pitta, Reed, Jones, Harewood
    Kindle is a bust, Cody is a bust, Dickson is a bust, Pitta is solid, but nothing special, Reed can't stay healthy, Jones is finally coming on as a strong DL'man, and Harewood is depth with serious injury concerns.
    2010 Guys they passed over: Devin McCourty, Patrick Robinson, Rob Gronkowski, Zane Beadles, Linval Joseph, Darryl Washington, Carlos Dunlap, Sean Lee, Ben Tate, Brandon Spikes, Pat Angerer, John Asamoah, Jared Veldheer, Donald Butler, Emmanuel Sanders, Eric Decker, Andre Roberts, Navorro Bowman, Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernandez, Geno Atkins, Kam Chancellor, Riley Cooper, and Antonio Brown.

    2011 Draft - It is too early to tell...not sure what Jimmy Smith can become, but Torrey, McPhee, Chykie, Doss, and even Jah seem to be (at the very least) contributors.

    However, the 2009 and 2010 drafts...those are big mysteries to me. There was A LOT of talent left on the board. I really would like to know why the Ravens scouted these players differently than other teams...
    The Patriots completely restocked their team with that 2010 draft....absolutely knocked it out of the park. I'm really jealous.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I think the 2011 draft is looking like a solid one, you can't complain too much, can't hit in the draft every year. The Patriots have also had total busts too.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I think the 2011 draft is looking like a solid one, you can't complain too much, can't hit in the draft every year. The Patriots have also had total busts too.
    I know...I'm just really disappointed that in one of the most loaded drafts of the last 10 years we whiffed.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I think the 2011 draft is looking like a solid one, you can't complain too much, can't hit in the draft every year. The Patriots have also had total busts too.
    I agree and honestly, anyone who follows the draft as much as we all do knows that you can't strike gold every year at every position, but you really do have to wonder about the scouting department and their assessment of the players.

    I mean, I just don't understand how they can look at Ed Dickson and say - truthfully - that he would be a better player than Jimmy Graham. I remember watching the combine and even though Graham's biggest knock was he wasn't a good blocker, the dude was 6'6" with incredible speed, leaping ability, and hands. Plus, Dickson wasn't a very good blocking TE coming out of college either. Another was David Reed over Antonio Brown...how did that happen? If you look at that draft, between David Reed's pick and Ramone Harewood (Art Jones notwithstanding), there are at least 5 quality starters in there at positions we not only needed then, but need now.
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    If you gonna choose to pay Ngata, Suggs, Lewis, and Reed more than the entire offense, then the team MUST DRAFT BETTER!!! You have to fill major spots with cheap labor, and the best way to get some cheap labor that is good is 2nd/3rd/and lower round draft picks. This explains it all why the Ravens are deficient. You cannot fill major roster spots with chicken shit cheap vets. Only way you can win is DRAFTING BETTER with high priced superstars.

    Should you have so many high priced superstars?? I say NO! Puts too much pressure on drafting. Considering what contribution they are getting from these highed priced superstars this year it is truly amazing that we are 9-5.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ravensnhokies View Post
    If you gonna choose to pay Ngata, Suggs, Lewis, and Reed more than the entire offense, then the team MUST DRAFT BETTER!!! You have to fill major spots with cheap labor, and the best way to get some cheap labor that is good is 2nd/3rd/and lower round draft picks. This explains it all why the Ravens are deficient. You cannot fill major roster spots with chicken shit cheap vets. Only way you can win is DRAFTING BETTER with high priced superstars.

    Should you have so many high priced superstars?? I say NO! Puts too much pressure on drafting. Considering what contribution they are getting from these highed priced superstars this year it is truly amazing that we are 9-5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I know...I'm just really disappointed that in one of the most loaded drafts of the last 10 years we whiffed.
    I know we drafted late(25) and traded 2 picks(3+4) for Boldin, but I said it then(trust me I was basically rn off the board) and I'll say it again.

    I can't find a team in the league that got LESS from the 2010 draft then the Baltimroe Ravens. Hell, the Freaking Raiders got Veldheer, who I'd retroactively trade our whole entire draft for. As noted above, it was instantly puzzling picking Dickson over Graham and Hernandez, and then backing it up with yet another TE that can't block his way out fo a wet paper bag. The first two picks were IMMEDIATELY very troublesome, and SCREAMED bust, by the combine at the latest. All I heard for basically an entire year, was "Trust in OZ" and "Who are you that you think you know better then the best FO in football", etc. In one of the deepest drafts in the history of football, we got basically NIL. 2 years later when the biggest contributors you have left are a "good backup" level TE and a "potential starting 5 technique" it's pretty sad. There were legit starters drafted on day 3 o that draft.




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