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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Te'o is going to be made fun of hardcore for years over this. Even in our own clubhouse id say it will happen but mostly by opposing teams and fans relentlessly. Im not sure he has the ability to rise above it. seems kind of soft mentally (the whole fake GF thing tends to point that way). So his ability on the field will have to be to the degree that its worthy. I just dont think it is. Kuechly really impressed me this year, quite frankly i didnt think he was worthy of such a high pick but I still think hes a better prospect than Te'o on the whole, which imo, makes him that borderline first rounder.
    Well, Kuechly may be the best LB prospect to come out since Patrick Willis; and I mean that in all sincerity.

    However, Kuechly was WAY more athletic than T'eo and his combine numbers proved that.

    IMO, after watching a lot of T'eo I think he is a lot more athletic than many are giving him credit for. He's no Patrick Willis, but IMO he may be the best all-around inside linebacker prospect in this draft. I just don't think he has as much upside as someone like Kevin Minter or Alec Ogletree, but T'eo is still pretty damn solid.

    And regarding the catfish thing: The dude is just going to have to suck it up and know that he is going to be the brunt of jokes and heckling from other teams. It is going to happen. He is going to be heckled by his own teammates, regardless of what team he goes to. He's going to have to develop thick skin, get a sense of humor, and just shut people up by killing it on the football field. I think the Ravens' locker room would be a good spot for him.

    I mean, who better to help T'eo get some thick skin than Flacco? That guy has been made fun of, heckled, and trashed by the media, other teams, and his own team since he was drafted. He was the SB MVP and he is STILL getting thrashed by media pundits.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I'm really feeling a Chase Thomas pick if we move up in the third. If we lose Kruger, we'll desperately need someone who can rush the passer. Thomas reminds me of a poor man's Clay Matthews. The guy just has a nose for the ball.




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    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Draft your LT of the future. Move up to get him.

    Oh, and speed on defense. Speed at Ray's old spot. Speed at Reed's spot. Speed.
    I just can't help but think this is the right move.

    ILBr and Safety are simply far easier voids to fill then LT. Mid round talent is adequate most of the time. Ihedigbo, MClellan, McLain, Bynes, possibly Ellerbe... we can get by with those guys better then playing Oher at LT, KO at RT and filling the new void at LG while also playing a young Center.

    It's jsut one of those situations where we can't afford NOT t get a longterm LT sollution out of this draft or Trade season. It reminds me of a few years ago and ourCB position. Oz fille that void after the draft with Josh Wilson. So I may give him the benefit of the doubt for a bit, but at the worst I want Quessenberry out of this draft, or I will think of it as a failure... the whole draft, basically independent of who we DO get. A trade for Veldheer, or picking up Vollmer in FA wqould change that however.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscull View Post
    I'm really feeling a Chase Thomas pick if we move up in the third. If we lose Kruger, we'll desperately need someone who can rush the passer. Thomas reminds me of a poor man's Clay Matthews. The guy just has a nose for the ball.
    Not me. Not at all.

    I'd rather the Ravens target Tank Carradine or Travis Long as a mid-round pass rusher.

    Thomas was really over matched at the Senior Bowl. Maybe he was just nervous and it got to him, but he looked slow, had little ability in space, and misread a lot of plays.

    Trent Murphy (also from Stanford...6'6" 261lbs) might be an interesting pick up in the 3rd or 4th rounds.
    http://www.gostanford.com/sports/m-f...hy_439873.html

    He was Stanford's best pass rusher by far last year.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    I just can't help but think this is the right move.

    ILBr and Safety are simply far easier voids to fill then LT. Mid round talent is adequate most of the time. Ihedigbo, MClellan, McLain, Bynes, possibly Ellerbe... we can get by with those guys better then playing Oher at LT, KO at RT and filling the new void at LG while also playing a young Center.

    It's jsut one of those situations where we can't afford NOT t get a longterm LT sollution out of this draft or Trade season. It reminds me of a few years ago and ourCB position. Oz fille that void after the draft with Josh Wilson. So I may give him the benefit of the doubt for a bit, but at the worst I want Quessenberry out of this draft, or I will think of it as a failure... the whole draft, basically independent of who we DO get. A trade for Veldheer, or picking up Vollmer in FA wqould change that however.
    I wonder if Vollmer could actually play LT though? He is a damn good RT. So, in that scenario, at worst we'd be looking at an Avg to below avg Michael Oher, but the rest of the line would be very very strong (assuming Vollmer is at RT).

    I want Quessenberry as well.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    No, just stop it, we're not trading up 15 spots to get a OT who while yes, he looked great at the combine, is still actually pretty raw on film, Ozzie has never traded up THAT far before.

    There are a lot of mocks going around with us taking Manti Teo at 32, I'd be pretty happy with that. I'd also be happy with Matt Elam or Tyler Eifert.
    Incorrect, Ozzie moved all the way up from the 2nd round to select Kyle Boller. He has done it before.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I like faulk as a mid round potential left tackle




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    IMO, if Johnson drops into the 20's and you only have to move up 5,6, or 7 spots then yea, you might entertain that. However, if they're talking about moving up into the top 15...I dont know. That may be a bit too rich for their blood.

    Frankly, IMO, if they are going to move up and draft a tackle then they might as well go all in and move up to take Eric Fisher.
    That's a good point too. I don't see it happening, but I do think this is a good year to do it. We saw the difference between having a below-average LT and having a solid LT. It made a huge difference.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I wonder if Vollmer could actually play LT though? He is a damn good RT. So, in that scenario, at worst we'd be looking at an Avg to below avg Michael Oher, but the rest of the line would be very very strong (assuming Vollmer is at RT).

    I want Quessenberry as well.

    he was a LT in collee, and IMO, his skills would translate there. I think he is better in every way save for durability to Oher.




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    Sign McKinnie to a 2 year, incentive laden deal with a good bonus. I doubt many teams will take a flier on him. Then you have plenty of draft options. If they got Eiffert/Ertz (both similar splitting hairs) or Elam at S or Robbins at C or a decent MLB in the first as BPA would be a good move. Or even moving picks around to end up with 2 or 3 second rounders or 2 second rounders and 2 3rd rounders would be nice as well. The Ravens have lots of good options because of those 4 comp picks to move around the draft board with thier slotted picks to target certain players. I just want them to use this draft wisely to help the future and the immediate future at the same time. I dont see them taking 11 players, bad odds that many rookies make the team. Still last years prospects have to contribute Asa Jackson, Thompson, Tyson, Gradkowski and Steeter.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Not me. Not at all.

    I'd rather the Ravens target Tank Carradine or Travis Long as a mid-round pass rusher.

    Thomas was really over matched at the Senior Bowl. Maybe he was just nervous and it got to him, but he looked slow, had little ability in space, and misread a lot of plays.

    Trent Murphy (also from Stanford...6'6" 261lbs) might be an interesting pick up in the 3rd or 4th rounds.
    http://www.gostanford.com/sports/m-f...hy_439873.html

    He was Stanford's best pass rusher by far last year.
    I like Long, reminds me of Kruger actually but i think Kruger is more explosive. With Long though i dont think it would take him as long to become a player. I think he could be a solid sub package rusher tomorrow.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Right now I think this guys will be potential BPA's at pick 32:

    Tyler Eiffert, TE, Notre Dame 6'6" 250lbs
    Manti T'eo, LB, Notre Dame 6'2" 245lbs
    Matt Elam, FS, Florida 5'10" 205lbs
    Datone Jones, DE, UCLA 6'4" 285lbs
    Margus Hunt, DE, SMU 6'8" 277lbs
    Kevin Minter, LB, LSU 6'2" 245lbs
    Alex Okafor, DE, Texas 6'4" 265lbs
    DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson 6'1" 205lbs
    Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama 6'5" 310lbs


    We are going to be in a tough spot. I'm actually beginning to think that Elam may not be there either.

    Patriots, San Fran, St. Louis, Bengals, Texans and Steelers could all target Vaccaro and/or Elam.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    You cannot go into the next season with a legitimate chance that Michael Oher can be at LT.

    You need to resign Bryant McKinnie AND draft your future LT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Right now I think this guys will be potential BPA's at pick 32:

    Tyler Eiffert, TE, Notre Dame 6'6" 250lbs
    Manti T'eo, LB, Notre Dame 6'2" 245lbs
    Matt Elam, FS, Florida 5'10" 205lbs
    Datone Jones, DE, UCLA 6'4" 285lbs
    Margus Hunt, DE, SMU 6'8" 277lbs
    Kevin Minter, LB, LSU 6'2" 245lbs
    Alex Okafor, DE, Texas 6'4" 265lbs
    DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson 6'1" 205lbs
    Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama 6'5" 310lbs


    We are going to be in a tough spot. I'm actually beginning to think that Elam may not be there either.

    Patriots, San Fran, St. Louis, Bengals, Texans and Steelers could all target Vaccaro and/or Elam.
    Like all those selctions except the WR from Clemson.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Right now I think this guys will be potential BPA's at pick 32:

    Tyler Eiffert, TE, Notre Dame 6'6" 250lbs
    Manti T'eo, LB, Notre Dame 6'2" 245lbs
    Matt Elam, FS, Florida 5'10" 205lbs
    Datone Jones, DE, UCLA 6'4" 285lbs
    Margus Hunt, DE, SMU 6'8" 277lbs
    Kevin Minter, LB, LSU 6'2" 245lbs
    Alex Okafor, DE, Texas 6'4" 265lbs
    DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson 6'1" 205lbs
    Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama 6'5" 310lbs
    What order would you put them in?
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