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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Gerald Hodges weighing in at 239 is a nice surprise.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Also, Joe Vellano weighing in at 300lbs and still being that quick is a REALLY nice thing for him to maintain in this process. If he can belt out 25-30 reps on the bench, I think he could really move his stock up.

    Geno Atkins is 6'1" 290lbs and look at how good he is. Vellano may not be a very tall guy, but he is just a nasty guy. Out of everyone in this draft, he is the one guy that I have wanted as a Raven for a couple of years now.

    The other Terp DT, AJ Francis, might not be a bad addition in the later rounds either.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Duke Williams out of Nevada might be another safety to keep an eye on. Pretty underrated player.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I guess I just don't get the infatuation with margins hunt and ansah. I understand their intangibles and potential but in the first I think the ravens really need to get a more polished player. This is the most important draft for the ravens in a long time, they need to pick players with better production and consistency than those two. I understand that they could become guys like Pierre Paul or JJ watt but I'd rather have a "safer pick" that being said I know that not everyone makes the transition to the nfl. This is almost like a new beginning for this organization, ray is retiring and we are in cap hell, a solid draft with 2 or 3 productive players with high ceilings goes a long way for this team. I also do not get the love for the center out of Wisconsin, are you all ready to give up on Gino? The only center I see them taking high is Barrett jones other than that it need to be defense defense defense with a receiver in there. Sign Ellerbe, let Kruger walk as he is not worth the money he is asking and pick some guys with more than intangibles to how for their college career




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Also, Joe Vellano weighing in at 300lbs and still being that quick is a REALLY nice thing for him to maintain in this process. If he can belt out 25-30 reps on the bench, I think he could really move his stock up.

    Geno Atkins is 6'1" 290lbs and look at how good he is. Vellano may not be a very tall guy, but he is just a nasty guy. Out of everyone in this draft, he is the one guy that I have wanted as a Raven for a couple of years now.

    The other Terp DT, AJ Francis, might not be a bad addition in the later rounds either.
    Both the guys are a little limited athletically but make up for in with work ethic and effort, Vellano even more so. You're not going to get slackers there.

    After seeing every game Vellano has played I'm convinced he's going to be a factor in the NFL wherever he plays. He plays with incredible technique and motor.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JCroUSAF View Post
    I guess I just don't get the infatuation with margins hunt and ansah. I understand their intangibles and potential but in the first I think the ravens really need to get a more polished player. This is the most important draft for the ravens in a long time, they need to pick players with better production and consistency than those two. I understand that they could become guys like Pierre Paul or JJ watt but I'd rather have a "safer pick" that being said I know that not everyone makes the transition to the nfl. This is almost like a new beginning for this organization, ray is retiring and we are in cap hell, a solid draft with 2 or 3 productive players with high ceilings goes a long way for this team. I also do not get the love for the center out of Wisconsin, are you all ready to give up on Gino? The only center I see them taking high is Barrett jones other than that it need to be defense defense defense with a receiver in there. Sign Ellerbe, let Kruger walk as he is not worth the money he is asking and pick some guys with more than intangibles to how for their college career
    Margus Hunt is the definition of a boom or bust player. If he goes to the right system and reaches his potential, we are probably talking about a guy who could be the next Jared Allen/Julius Peppers type of DE. The guy is 6'8" 280lbs without a lick of fat on him. He supposedly has run the 40 in under 4.6, which would likely be a ridiculous 10-yard split, and he is strong as hell. The best part about him is that he has only played football for 2 years IIRC. The sky is the limit for him. Or, he could turn into a bust of epic proportions.

    Truthfully, I am hoping they go for a pass rusher in round 1. Ideally, I'd like to see them target Dion Jordan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.r.genovese View Post

    Both the guys are a little limited athletically but make up for in with work ethic and effort, Vellano even more so. You're not going to get slackers there.

    After seeing every game Vellano has played I'm convinced he's going to be a factor in the NFL wherever he plays. He plays with incredible technique and motor.
    And those are things you cant coach. Ill take lesser talented guys who haul ass any day of the week over talented guys with poor work ethic.

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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Margus Hunt is the definition of a boom or bust player. If he goes to the right system and reaches his potential, we are probably talking about a guy who could be the next Jared Allen/Julius Peppers type of DE. The guy is 6'8" 280lbs without a lick of fat on him. He supposedly has run the 40 in under 4.6, which would likely be a ridiculous 10-yard split, and he is strong as hell. The best part about him is that he has only played football for 2 years IIRC. The sky is the limit for him. Or, he could turn into a bust of epic proportions.

    Truthfully, I am hoping they go for a pass rusher in round 1. Ideally, I'd like to see them target Dion Jordan.

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    I think we need a pass rusher at 5 tech, hoping we can re-sign Kruger, hopefully he'd be the staple at the 3-4 OLB Sam position opposite Suggs for years.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I think we need a pass rusher at 5 tech, hoping we can re-sign Kruger, hopefully he'd be the staple at the 3-4 OLB Sam position opposite Suggs for years.
    I would love to see them keep Kruger as well, but I'm also a realist. He may just be too expensive.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I would love to see them keep Kruger as well, but I'm also a realist. He may just be too expensive.
    Sad to agree on this.
    Far as the first round pick is concerned, I would like the Ravens to take the guy who is their highest rated OL, DL or LB unless someone ridiculous falls to them at another position.
    Vellano is a guy I like. He has intangibles that make me think he will be a better player than his measurables would predict.
    Margus Hunt is a boom or bust guy. He could be a monster or could be Vernon Ghoulston lol. What happens with a guy like Kruger does have an effect on how you view a prospect like him to some extent. If you know you lost Kruger and need a pass rusher your going to be more likely to assume some risk. If your retain Kruger you might be more inclined to pick another position or go with a guy who has a lower ceiling but higher floor so to speak.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Speaking of Kruger...we could make sure that we keep the name on the team this year by drafting Paul Kruger's not-so-little (younger) brother, Joe Kruger. He is a DT out of Utah and is 6'7" and about 290lbs. Not a bad player.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Folks, the Te'o hoax story grew to be much larger than this thread. In order to save this draft / FA thread, please post your future Te'o posts in the Non Ravens Football area of the forum.

    There's a Te'o thread there that's up and running. Thanks!
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Folks, the Te'o hoax story grew to be much larger than this thread. In order to save this draft / FA thread, please post your future Te'o posts in the Non Ravens Football area of the forum.

    There's a Te'o thread there that's up and running. Thanks!
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Hunt was dominant in the Fresno State bowl game...and he had another game where he was extremely productive...but it's concerning that he didn't have any production in most of his other games.

    I really like him, but I wouldn't take him before the end of the third.

    I don't know how I feel about Dion Jordan in the first either.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Man, I just watched some more stuff on Gerald Hodges...I really, really like that guy. After the top 2 obviously, and Minter, he is by far my favorite LB. I really hope we get a chance to grab him at the end of the second round.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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