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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    The best case scenario is to sign Brandon Albert and hoping that Flacco signs a backloaded deal. We can then trade back from 25 into the second for a 4th and a 3rd, we could have tons of draft picks to improve this team. Trade up into the second so we can have three second round picks.

    So we could be looking at (just an example)...

    Jon Jenkins
    Kevin Minter
    DaRick Rogers

    Note: Jerell Worthy, Bobby Wagner, and Alshon Jeffery were 2nd round picks, that could be similar value right there.

    Use the 3rd round pick on a guy to compete with Gino (Travis Federick, or Mario Benevides).

    The rest of the picks can be on the secondary and offensive depth.

    Just one of many paths to consider in the draft.




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    That's damn right leach. That's what I was laying down yesterday. I don't want to trade down (unless there's a huge value drop off or no one slides), but if we do trade down then I like the "three 2nds" move.

    And even if we miss out on Albert, and Fisher is gone, we should work the "three 2nds" angle--provided we have an excellent feel for our big board relative to the other 31 teams--and can grab UVa's OT with the highest 2nd. (IIRC our board "broke down" in the 3rd round last year) From their you have a slate of defenders to strengthen the roster with 2nd #2 and 2nd #3.

    Here's hoping Grubbs makes the pro bowl.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Oday Aboushi would definitely be an optimal pick.

    I also like Dallas Thomas out of Tennessee. He is a swing guard/tackle. And, honestly, I still like Barrett Jones. He played really well at LT for the Crimson Tide and it isn't like he was facing off against scrub DE's and pass rushers.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Oday Aboushi would definitely be an optimal pick.

    I also like Dallas Thomas out of Tennessee. He is a swing guard/tackle. And, honestly, I still like Barrett Jones. He played really well at LT for the Crimson Tide and it isn't like he was facing off against scrub DE's and pass rushers.
    I like Barrett Jones too.

    LOL he's probably better at LT than Oher hahaha




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    The best case scenario is to sign Brandon Albert and hoping that Flacco signs a backloaded deal. We can then trade back from 25 into the second for a 4th and a 3rd, we could have tons of draft picks to improve this team. Trade up into the second so we can have three second round picks.

    So we could be looking at (just an example)...

    Jon Jenkins
    Kevin Minter
    DaRick Rogers

    Note: Jerell Worthy, Bobby Wagner, and Alshon Jeffery were 2nd round picks, that could be similar value right there.

    Use the 3rd round pick on a guy to compete with Gino (Travis Federick, or Mario Benevides).

    The rest of the picks can be on the secondary and offensive depth.

    Just one of many paths to consider in the draft.
    I like what I've heard about Rogers, sounds better than Jeffrey in that he might be able to get separation at the NFL level!




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    That's damn right leach. That's what I was laying down yesterday. I don't want to trade down (unless there's a huge value drop off or no one slides), but if we do trade down then I like the "three 2nds" move.

    And even if we miss out on Albert, and Fisher is gone, we should work the "three 2nds" angle--provided we have an excellent feel for our big board relative to the other 31 teams--and can grab UVa's OT with the highest 2nd. (IIRC our board "broke down" in the 3rd round last year) From their you have a slate of defenders to strengthen the roster with 2nd #2 and 2nd #3.

    Here's hoping Grubbs makes the pro bowl.
    Yeah I seen the post, you were the one who gave me that idea.

    Yeah maybe Oday Aboushi, Alec Ogletree, and DeAndre Hopkins in the second, great value picks right there.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef View Post
    I like what I've heard about Rogers, sounds better than Jeffrey in that he might be able to get separation at the NFL level!
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef View Post
    I like what I've heard about Rogers, sounds better than Jeffrey in that he might be able to get separation at the NFL level!
    I like Rogers a lot too. In fact, I've seen some mocks that have the Ravens targeting him in the 2nd round. While I'm not entirely sure that is feasible - I think he'll go earlier - he would be an outstanding edition. Good size at 6'3" 210lbs. Nice speed. Runs decent routes. However, I love that the guy is really tough to bring down.

    His off-field issues are a concern though. He got kicked off of Tennessee's program and if you guys know anything about Tennessee's football program, you have to be a REAL shit head to get kicked out of school there. If you don't believe me, read up on Erik Ainge.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Does anybody know if Eifert is declaring this year? Another player to consider in the second round. We aren't exactly set at TE, and need a difference maker who can also block.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Talented, but inconsistent.

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    sounds very similar to someone else I know The kid has a helluva arm, someone will reach for him
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    From everything I've read and seen of this draft class, I agree that trading down into the second and then trading up from the third would be the best way to attack it. I know we have traded down recently, but the strength of this class seems to play fairly well into some of our needs. The chance to trade down and up and get guys like Austin, Bailey, Rogers, Arthur Brown, Minter and so on really would provide potential at differing positions we need help at.

    But then, depends who is on the board when the Ravens' first rounder comes up.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I am amazed at Stedman Baily, how is this guy so underrated? His tape says first round to me, very strong for such a little guy.





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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    I'm not a huge fan of Tavon Austin. I actually think Stedman Bailey is the better of the two prospects. I haven't watched Quinton Patton at all so I have no clue on him. I like Ryan Swope, think he's a good fit for a WCO team. His route running is good, good hands, pretty good after the catch... but not really elite at anything. He may have also been helped by playing with some very good quarterbacks.

    This draft class isn't too strong at WR, I agree. I've been looking at big, physical WRs to replace Boldin lately, so let me comment on my thoughts on 3 of em. I just finished watching some tape of Keenan Allen, and I'm not really sure what I think of him. I think he has some precision in his route running but he gets sloppy at times and he isn't super quick out of his breaks. He reminds me a bit of Anquan in that respect, guys who are savvy but just don't have a lot of lateral agility. He also doesn't have elite body control or hand catching at this point. Don't think he's worth a 1st round pick.

    Just got done watching a little bit of Justin Hunter as well, this guy is also a 1st rounder? Maybe I need to watch more but he doesn't catch the ball with his hands and doesn't use his height and length all that well. Not knocked out by him either...

    The guy I've watched recently that I liked the most was Da'Rick Rogers. Best body control, hands, and route running I've seen. Nice sharp cuts despite his big frame, and he uses his big frame better than either of the other two guys. He should be around in the 2nd given his character issues but I think he's the most talented "big" WR I've watched so far.
    I really like Stedman Bailey and i think he'd bring an element that would give us maybe what we need most, a drive extending yac guy. Hopefully the compensatory gods bless us and depending on there we could trade down into the early 2nd then be ultra aggressive with the accumalation of picks. Bailey is probably a late 2nd early 3rd round guy but without some moving around the board i dont know if we'd have the luxury to take him outright with all the defensive needs. Also dont sleep on Cobi Hamilton, he's a big guy but he's suprisingly agile and good in short areas.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Btw BYU LB Kyle Van Noy balled out last night, i know he's active, has been an edge rusher in a 3-4 type scheme. Anybody seen him? seen him in coverage?




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Not a player question, but what would you guys think about bringing back Mike Pettine? He apparently declined an extension with the Jets.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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