Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

**wickedsolo** · 02-21-2013, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Randy Moss' future in the NFL is uncertain: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...-49ers-unclear

Fixed that for ya.

**jonboy79** · 02-21-2013, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

What about Clausen, Tebow, Pat White, Chad Henne? None of those guys are starting level QBs but were drafted in the 1st 2 rounds. Christian Ponder isn't any better than Sanchez but we need another year. It's also too early for Weeden but I bet 3 years from now he won't be starting. The Broncos also took a QB last year but until he gets a chance there is no way to know what he is.

3 years from now Weeden will be in a nursing home. Worst 1st round pick ever...

**bmorecareful** · 02-21-2013, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Yes we could save 1 or 2 mills by extending Oher, But I'm not sure if I'd pay him Eric Winston type money. I know its not a lot, but Oher just isn't as good as Winston. A solid RT (which is what Oher is) should get around $15M over 3/4 years IMO.

Well, you say 15 over 3 or 4 and I say 22 over 5, that's pretty much the same number, right around 4m a year. I agree that he's not worth Winston money so that's why I put an extra year on there.

It doesn't matter how many years or whatever, the important thing is to save money for 2013 and not overpay long-term, that sounds like around 4m a year however they want to structure it. I myself have been one of Oher's harshest critics over the years but there is no reason not to keep him around long-term preferably at RT.

**jonboy79** · 02-21-2013, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by bt12483

Top candidates (IMO) for retire/release/extension/restructuring/injury settlement:
Anquan $6M cap count (hopefully extend)
Jacoby $4M cap count (extend or cut)
Oher $3.785M cap count (extend at RT $)
Leach $3M cap count (cut)
Birk $2.05M cap count (retire/cut)
McClain $1.8M cap count (maintain or injury)
Bobbie Williams $1.2M cap count (cut)
BA $806,666 cap count (cut)
Spencer Adkins $630,000 cap count (cut)

Getting rid of Leach, Birk, Williams, BA and Adkins would save us $7,686,666 against the cap.

those are not total cap numbers, are those the savings if cut? seems abotu right for that.

Who the eff is Spencer Adkins?

**wickedsolo** · 02-21-2013, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by jonboy79

those are not total cap numbers, are those the savings if cut? seems abotu right for that.

Who the eff is Spencer Adkins?

Guy they signed right before the SB to a "future contract".

He was an outside linebacker down in Atlanta. Not a bad player. Could be a nice depth/ST's guy.

**bt12483** · 02-21-2013, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by jonboy79

those are not total cap numbers, are those the savings if cut? seems abotu right for that.

Yeah. Savings if cut. Got the numbers from overthecap.com

Originally Posted by jonboy79

Who the eff is Spencer Adkins?

No clue. LB apparently. Drafted by ATL (3rd year player I think). $630k too pricey for a nobody. As far as I can tell he pretty much contributed nothing.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 02-21-2013, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

What about Clausen, Tebow, Pat White, Chad Henne? None of those guys are starting level QBs but were drafted in the 1st 2 rounds. Christian Ponder isn't any better than Sanchez but we need another year. It's also too early for Weeden but I bet 3 years from now he won't be starting. The Broncos also took a QB last year but until he gets a chance there is no way to know what he is.

I never said there weren't any, but compared to most years, it hasn't been nearly as bad IMHO.

I'm not even really counting Pat White as he was drafted as a gimmick player...I don't think the Dolphins had any intention of him ever being an NFL QB.

**wickedsolo** · 02-21-2013, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by bt12483

Yeah. Savings if cut. Got the numbers from overthecap.com

No clue. LB apparently. Drafted by ATL. $630k too pricey for a nobody.

The 630K is probably the minimum they can pay him. He's been in the league for 3-4 years IIRC.

**Dirt1** · 02-21-2013, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by bt12483

Top candidates (IMO) for retire/release/extension/restructuring/injury settlement:
Anquan $6M cap count (hopefully extend)
Jacoby $4M cap count (extend or cut)
Oher $3.785M cap count (extend at RT $)
Leach $3M cap count (cut)
Birk $2.05M cap count (retire/cut)
McClain $1.8M cap count (retain or injury)
Bobbie Williams $1.2M cap count (cut)
BA $806,666 cap count (cut)
Spencer Adkins $630,000 cap count (cut)

Getting rid of Leach, Birk, Williams, BA and Adkins would save us $7,686,666 against the cap.

What about the cap savings from Ray Lewis retiring?

**BigPlayReceiver** · 02-21-2013, 01:55 PM

Our FO misses like everyone else's, but thank Gawd we're not CLE, OAK, JAC or NYJ.

**Paintballguy** · 02-21-2013, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt1

What about the cap savings from Ray Lewis retiring?

4.35 Million from Ray retiring

**Dirt1** · 02-21-2013, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

4.35 Million from Ray retiring

So, that would mean a total cap savings of about $12 million. Depending on how the Ravens structure Flacco's deal, they should still be able to field a very competitive team and pay Flacco Top 5 QB money. But aren't there other contracts (Suggs, Ngata) who will have bigger cap hits next year?