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02-05-2013, 09:51 PM #2043Steve Flacco, Apparently
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He also publicly expressed regret for that move (the move mind you, not just the pick) and has vowed never to sell the farm to move up like that again.
This debate comes up EVERY SINGLE YEAR. People insist that we need to move up because this is the most important draft ever and we just have to get a high round guy. And every single year we stay pat or move down and grab guys like Rice, KO, Upshaw, Ed Reed, Heap, Pitta etc etc etc who are all whined about until they start producing (as they do with very consistent regularity.)
We're not going to trade up. If we do it will not be more than a couple spots. Stop asking Ozzie to run the team like Al Davis and enjoy the exceptional work he does mining the back half of the rounds and undrafted free agents.My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging. -Hank Aaron
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This is where good scouting really comes into play.
Think about it...I'm pretty sure several teams are pissed as shit for passing over KO. Same with Bernard Pierce and frankly I bet there are plenty of teams who would have rather taken Upshaw than some of their picks (San Fran...who took AJ Jenkins...who didn't play...at all...ever...).Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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02-05-2013, 10:45 PM #2045Legendary RSR Poster
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Walterfootball has us taking DeAndre Hopkins in round 1 and David Amerson in round 2.
That would be a pretty nice 1st and 2nd round.
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
We'll see. Trading up in the first round is not the same as "running the team like Al Davis." We've seen plenty of good players have good impact when they were traded up for. Julio Jones, for example. Jerry Rice, was also draft day trade. Tony Dorsett was worth 4 picks.
The latter two guys led their teams to Super Bowls. I'd bet a decent amount of money the Falcons win a Superbowl within 3 years.
And I'm sorry if the debate comes up "every year" but it certainly isn't every year that the Ravens have 11 picks to work with. And your argument about mining the back half of the draft only strengthens the trade up argument: They can afford to trade up to get a guy who's really good because they will always find other good players with their back end draft picks.
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
I agree, if ever thier was a year to move up it is this one with all those picks. Bottom line it is a talent aquisition business. It doesnt matter how you get players, UFA, UDFA, draft or trades get the best players you can and build a roster. IMO, if they use 11 picks many will be wasted. I wouldnt even mind trading some of this years picks for picks in next years draft also, get better value that way if need be. Then you can use those picks to trade before the season or during the season. I like the idea of having extra picks in 2014 before the 2013 season starts in the event of an injury or void is needed to be filled with a later trade deadline the NFL has. You never know what position will be a weakness once injuries come up or players underperform and teams are always looking to add picks in trades rather than players. Maximum value and flexibilty is achieved in this way. It's like in baseball having a lot of quality trade prospects at the trade deadline makes your team stronger for the finish and ultimate goal.
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02-05-2013, 11:49 PM #2050Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
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If the price was right and we had the cap space, I'd love to bring him in...I think he is more than just a nickel backer...he can start, we'd just have to keep him clean...we'd have our thumper in Ellerbe.
I'd prefer him over McClain...BTW, speaking of McClain, I read an article a while ago where his injury may be career threatening.Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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