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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    In any other year I'd say yes to Tavon, but we simply have to get faster on defense, and we could do with a franchise LT.
    I think this draft is predominately going to be defense.

    Lots of really solid value on the defensive side of the ball and the Ravens need it.
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  2. Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    Ozzie will take the BPA approach as he always does. He stays true to his board.
    I know he will. We should be looking at the draft the same way. Who do you love? Forget where they fit. Who will be an all pro one day?

    I like Jessie Williams from Bama at 32, but do not study the draft picks that close until they get drafted.

    One super sleeper prospect I know personally is Jeremy Jester from Central Arkansas. He will put up some very impressive workout numbers soon. He started at TN as a TE but transfered twice and eventually got moved to DE/OLB. Now I have never actually seen him play, but we worked together for a while and he has the dedication and size/ speed ratio. He looks a lot like Paul Kruger.







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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    And how do you propose we fill those needs in FA with our lack of cap space? Unless we get Flacco signed, we wont be filling any holes in free agency. People think Ozzie just takes the BPA straight from his board, its not like that, needs are taken into account, otherwise we would have drafted Harrison Smith or Cordy Glenn at 29 last year, we traded back to take Upshaw to replace Jarrett Johnson. If Ozzie really picked players straight off his board, we would have had 4 QBs and 5 RBs on the roster right now.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    I like Jessie Williams from Bama at 32, but do not study the draft picks that close until they get drafted.
    I know this sounds ridiculous, but I can see Williams stock going up due to the combine significantly because his bench press is impressive. That's the combine effect. Something like BP reps can make someones stock sky rocket if they have a decent 40 time (I.e: Dontari Poe)




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Although there are a few guys I like better, the best pick at #32 for the Ravens just might be John Jenkins (DT, Georgia). The dude is a load, and might still be on the board.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post
    I know this sounds ridiculous, but I can see Williams stock going up due to the combine significantly because his bench press is impressive. That's the combine effect. Something like BP reps can make someones stock sky rocket if they have a decent 40 time (I.e: Dontari Poe)
    Jesse Williams was far more productive playing in the toughest conference in college football than Poe was playing against bad teams at Memphis. Poe has to be one of the biggest reaches in recent history.




  7. Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    And how do you propose we fill those needs in FA with our lack of cap space? Unless we get Flacco signed, we wont be filling any holes in free agency. People think Ozzie just takes the BPA straight from his board, its not like that, needs are taken into account, otherwise we would have drafted Harrison Smith or Cordy Glenn at 29 last year, we traded back to take Upshaw to replace Jarrett Johnson. If Ozzie really picked players straight off his board, we would have had 4 QBs and 5 RBs on the roster right now.
    You fill the holes the best you can, but most of the time you go into the season with some and hope for the best.

    Obviously BPA approach to drafting is not black and white and it does not ignore positional need and value.







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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    As Ozzie says bpa
    BPA is EASILY the most commonly misunderstood saying used constantly on this board.

    BPA is best player on the RAVENS BOARD. The Ravens board HEAVILY factors positional value and need into it already. Need is factored in a prjected view, as in taking into consideration needs that might be a year or two away. In that instance, WR could absolutely be considered a need with Jacoby and Anquan BOTh bing a bit long in the tooth and a bit short here as far as their projected stay on our roster.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    And how do you propose we fill those needs in FA with our lack of cap space? Unless we get Flacco signed, we wont be filling any holes in free agency. People think Ozzie just takes the BPA straight from his board, its not like that, needs are taken into account, otherwise we would have drafted Harrison Smith or Cordy Glenn at 29 last year, we traded back to take Upshaw to replace Jarrett Johnson. If Ozzie really picked players straight off his board, we would have had 4 QBs and 5 RBs on the roster right now.
    Nail meet head...well said leach. Ozzie picks the BPA if (a) it meets a Ravens need, or (b) he's forced to do so because he can't trade the pick... Bc




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    BPA is EASILY the most commonly misunderstood saying used constantly on this board.

    BPA is best player on the RAVENS BOARD. The Ravens board HEAVILY factors positional value and need into it already. Need is factored in a prjected view, as in taking into consideration needs that might be a year or two away. In that instance, WR could absolutely be considered a need with Jacoby and Anquan BOTh bing a bit long in the tooth and a bit short here as far as their projected stay on our roster.
    Yes I agree. It just depends on how Ozzie has his board setup. Obviously they aren't going to take a QB in the first round even if he's BPA. I understand that concept.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    on all three posts above me.




  12. Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    So what do we argue about now?

    How about some of the cut vets out there? I think Canty could help us.







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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    So what do we argue about now?

    How about some of the cut vets out there? I think Canty could help us.
    I don't think he's an upgrade over Jones who played really well in the post season and we have McPhee for passing downs (not saying much as he had a sophomore slump)

    Only FA's I'd like to see would be a pass rushing OLB for Kruger, a S for Reed or an ILB for Ray

    I am extremely high on Barnett, he's 31, but has played all 16 games the past 2 seasons which is good for a vet with no injury concerns




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    So what do we argue about now?

    How about some of the cut vets out there? I think Canty could help us.
    At the risk of being a broken record, besides minorbit players, the only FA I'm interested in is Terrence Knighton. Beast of a NT that had a down year in his walk year in JAX. Could be a relative bargain, for someone whom the year before last might have been the best NT in football.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    So what do we argue about now?

    How about some of the cut vets out there? I think Canty could help us.
    A bunch of teams are already bringing Canty in. He's going to be expensive,
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