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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe View Post
    What's the scouting reports on

    Jesse Williams DT
    DJ. Fluker RT
    A. Ogletree.

    Thanks. Where are they projected to go in draft?
    Williams is probably my favorite out of this bunch, but I like Ogletree's upside a lot.

    With Williams you are getting a pretty athletic big man (6'4" 320-330lbs) who can play NT or DT in a 3-4. I think he needs to work on becoming a better pass rusher, but the kid is ridiculously strong at the point of attack. I would comfortably say he is a solid 2nd rounder.

    Fluker is huge and has an incredible wing span, but doesnt have good footwork as a pass blocker. He is a hell of a run blocker though. I think a lot of teams are going to plug him into a RT position since that is where he played at Alabama, but frankly I think guard is his best position. Some team desperate for an OL'man could take him in round 1, but I think a mid 2nd to mid 3rd is probably more accurate.

    Regarding Ogletree, the guy is athletic as hell and he is very good in coverage. That is largely because he was a safety until I believe his sophomore year at Georgia when they dropped him down to LB. The big knock against him is that sometimes he shies away from blockers and rather than stuffing the hole, he will try to run around blockers and make a play from behind. That can work in college. Not in the NFL, though. I can't see him sliding out of round 1, but if he does it will only be a few spots into the second round.

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    Devonte Holloman is another safety converted to LB that os an interesting prospect.

    South Carolina. He was a SS and played a hybrid SS/Olb last year. He exclusively played ILB this year. He is 6'2" and around 243-246lbs. Big hitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenalytics View Post
    Does anyone think it's possible we might look at a way to offload Ray Rice's contract? His fumbling issues in the playoffs have been concerning, and I think Pierce could very well be starter quality.
    No.

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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Some Chad Bumphis tape finally.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=OQxj_3U9dRY

    Reckon I need to look for some "all snaps" <SEC defensive stud> tape vs. Miss State's offense, so that I can see more of Bumphis.
    I like his post catch elusiveness at 5'11 200lbs. Reportedly, he can truck a sub 4.5 as well. Steve Smith measureables, I'd say, but Bumphis would be a slot guy.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I laugh at people wanting to cut Rice without understanding the cap implications, and forgetting what he's done for this team.

    4th and 29??




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    What's the status of RayRay Armstrong? He was very well regarded as a player at Miami a couple of years ago, then dismissed and enrolled at something called Faulkner University (NAIA), declared ineligible there and now.....?
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Aaron Wilson said we could be 5 million over the cap now, maybe it was him who told Shefter that. I really don't understand where that figure is coming from, Ravor pretty much broke everything down. Are people reading Ravors cap estimation articles and misreading it or something? He clearly says 5 million UNDER the cap, not OVER.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jaydee414 View Post
    What's the status of RayRay Armstrong? He was very well regarded as a player at Miami a couple of years ago, then dismissed and enrolled at something called Faulkner University (NAIA), declared ineligible there and now.....?
    He won't be drafted.

    However, I'd definitely like to see him be a high priority UDFA.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I trade back for a second and fourth, draft jones, then trade out third our fourth and sixth for an early second taking minter, then on our original second take Williams from Missouri.

    With the fourth we traded for take chris Faulk potential left tackle from Lsu, with a fourth comp pick take a tight end like Escobar, with two fifth comps grab Mathieu, and some more oline depth.

    With a sixth comp look maybe at some more bodies at linebacker, and then in the seventh take a fullback.

    Great dline rotation of ngata, Williams, Cody, jones, McPhee, and art jones. Minter starts from day one alongside the resigned ellerbe.

    Jones and boldin both extended cutting down their cap numbers. Reed resigned, McKinnie resigned on heavily incentive laden deal. Kruger is gone, Cary gone, leach cut, pitta and art jones RFA get long term deals reducing their number a bit as well.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Keeping Ray Rice and Benard Pierce gives your offense versatility. You can control the clock, run out of single back, I and do a little of what St. Louis used to do in their time. There's no need to address the issue for, at least, another two years.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    While I have not given up on Terrance Cody, I would really like to see them draft a Nose Tackle. If they could get a Nose Tackle to take the double team, with the talent on this defense, the front could cause serious problems. You can only double, but so many players. Once you double the NT, you'll be lucky if you can still double Ngata and you'd have to keep a back or TE in to chip on Suggs. Upshaw would see one on one all day. As a supporting player to Suggs, I think Upshaw could get 7-10.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    While I have not given up on Terrance Cody, I would really like to see them draft a Nose Tackle. If they could get a Nose Tackle to take the double team, with the talent on this defense, the front could cause serious problems. You can only double, but so many players. Once you double the NT, you'll be lucky if you can still double Ngata and you'd have to keep a back or TE in to chip on Suggs. Upshaw would see one on one all day. As a supporting player to Suggs, I think Upshaw could get 7-10.
    The guy I'm hot on right now is Brandon Williams out of Southern Missouri, who we would be taking in the 2nd. He's a NT in the NFL but he can also play 5-tech DE/DT and 4-3 DT. Very versatile and a great run stopper, but he also broke a ton of D-II sack records as a pass rusher. He's basically everything Cody isn't, except he played at a small school instead of Alabama.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    While I have not given up on Terrance Cody, I would really like to see them draft a Nose Tackle.
    I think they do need to strengthen the interior defensive line, but I think they can find a legitimate player in the mid rounds. Unless one of those big studs falls to them in the first, there may be no reason to move around to get one. Guys like Akeem Spence, Kwame Geathers, or Sylvester Williams are probably going to be available in rounds 3-5. They are not the impact players of the highly regarded 1st round guys, but they are still going to most likely make an impact in the NFL.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I've seen these guys listed as 3rd-4th rounders... The two injured bookends at FSU, Brandon Jenkins and Tank Carradine. Jenkins looks like he could be a good fit in the 3-4 at 6'3 260 yet I realize he's had his injury issues. However, he looks pretty explosive and elusive off the edge. Carradine is more of a 43 end at 6'5 265, but he totaled 11.5 sacks before tearing his ACL. I've wondered if they would make for a good steal (mainly Jenkins) in rounds 2-4?




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lime in the Coconut View Post
    I've seen these guys listed as 3rd-4th rounders... The two injured bookends at FSU, Brandon Jenkins and Tank Carradine. Jenkins looks like he could be a good fit in the 3-4 at 6'3 260 yet I realize he's had his injury issues. However, he looks pretty explosive and elusive off the edge. Carradine is more of a 43 end at 6'5 265, but he totaled 11.5 sacks before tearing his ACL. I've wondered if they would make for a good steal (mainly Jenkins) in rounds 2-4?
    Brandon Jenkins would be a really nice pick in the 3rd or 4th. He is a GREAT player. Honestly if he would have gone back to school this year and come out in 2014 he'd probably be a high 1st rounder. The injury issue is going to drive his stock way below what it ought to be.




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