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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Wow...Did you guys hear Trent Dilfer said that if Glennon or Landry Jones were in the 08" draft you could make a legit case that either would go ahead of Ryan or Flacco.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    Wow...Did you guys hear Trent Dilfer said that if Glennon or Landry Jones were in the 08" draft you could make a legit case that either would go ahead of Ryan or Flacco.
    These idiots just need to stop.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    Wow...Did you guys hear Trent Dilfer said that if Glennon or Landry Jones were in the 08" draft you could make a legit case that either would go ahead of Ryan or Flacco.
    And on that note respect for Dilfer as an analyst... out the window...
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    Wow...Did you guys hear Trent Dilfer said that if Glennon or Landry Jones were in the 08" draft you could make a legit case that either would go ahead of Ryan or Flacco.
    LOl, yeah, OK... I think you could make the case that Ryan Mallett would go #1 overall in this draft...




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    Wow...Did you guys hear Trent Dilfer said that if Glennon or Landry Jones were in the 08" draft you could make a legit case that either would go ahead of Ryan or Flacco.
    He said that? WOW! I usually like Trent's opinions and agree with him most of the time. I wouldnt even want Glennon to start at Maryland next year, he is hot garbage. Landry Jones is journeyman NFL backup material.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    The WR thing is interesting...We in all reality do need a guy that projects as a true #2/outside threat that can naturally separate from man coverage but i look at the needs and i struggle to find room to use an adequate draft pick(First 4 rounds) on that this year with the needs. Now depending on how free agency goes for us maybe we can, let's take a look at the needs...

    For me ILB and DT are locked in as positions that have to be addressed early. With the anticipation that Kruger is gone we have to replace his pass rushing in this draft as well. Whether Ed Reed is brought back or not i think we have to draft a FS because even if Ed is back he's had injury issues, Thompson is coming off an injury, and i like Omar Brown a lot but im not sure if he's ready to make that kind of jump yet. LT is also a position i think has to be address with an heir apparent in a ideal situation.

    So those are 5 spots i view as higher needs then WR. Now if we could do a lot of moving up and down the board and obtain more picks rounds 2 thru 4 then i could see it but if not i think it's gonna be difficult. Now if anybody knows any prospects rounds 5 thru 7 that have some outside WR upside who would be better then say Thompson or Streeter with a year under their belts then that's fine but that is gonna be increasingly difficult to find. I really like Ace Sanders as a 5th rd guy but his small and probably will be slot only.

    Then again if a really good WR falls then Oz and Co. will take him because they dont sacrifice value very often, so all i said could have been a moot point lol
    See, what I get from your post is that our needs are generally at positions where mdi round picks absolutely can succeed. ILB, DT and even Safety are not generally first round needs. LT and passrusher are. Obviously special players dictate special circumstances, but as a general rule, the first(and even second) round is littered with QB's, LT's, CB's, RB's and passrushers. Those are the best athletes with most specialized skillsets. Guards, interior Dlinemen, linebackers, safetys, TEs and FB's are just less valuable.

    That's a good thing. Bu It means I don't think we need to panic if we haven't gotten a NT after the first two days.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/mock-d...eremiah/165100

    Daniel Jeremiah's mock is up

    SAM MONTGOMERY DE LSU
    Baltimore is always going to take the best available player, regardless of position. That said, Montgomery would provide some much-needed insurance should the Ravens lose Paul Kruger to free agency. Montgomery would team up with Terrell Suggs and Courtney Upshaw to provide a diverse and dynamic outside pass-rushing trio.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    And on that note respect for Dilfer as an analyst... out the window...
    This, and i thought Dilfer was ok as an analyst but this is one of the dumbest things i've ever heard.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post
    They already said they want to get stronger down the middle on defense.......on offense we can't let Boldin go. But at that end of the draft its either BPA or a package to move up.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Ozzie made it clear that they will not pass up a good offensive prospect if he is there. By some of the logic here, Ray Rice would not have been taken in the second round and Benard Pierce would not have been taken in the third.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    See, what I get from your post is that our needs are generally at positions where mdi round picks absolutely can succeed. ILB, DT and even Safety are not generally first round needs. LT and passrusher are. Obviously special players dictate special circumstances, but as a general rule, the first(and even second) round is littered with QB's, LT's, CB's, RB's and passrushers. Those are the best athletes with most specialized skillsets. Guards, interior Dlinemen, linebackers, safetys, TEs and FB's are just less valuable.

    That's a good thing. Bu It means I don't think we need to panic if we haven't gotten a NT after the first two days.
    You know, that's very true and an aspect i underrated. There is a good amount of ILB's im comfortable with rounds 2-4. Same can be said for the free safety position. NT is interesting because i think it's pretty scarce as far as legit 3-4 nose tackles that could contribute early but it's not like you have to take one in the first to ensure you get one. I like Brandon Williams a lot and he could be had in the 2nd or 3rd, probably 2nd the way he's rising. LT i think you go with a developmental guy like Quessenberry and im keeping an close eye on Luke Marquadt from Asuza Pacific http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profil...rdt?id=2539644

    So after careful thought and your post, forget my whole last post lol




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post
    If Montgomery falls all the way to 32, something is wrong with the other GM's...




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    The WR thing is interesting...We in all reality do need a guy that projects as a true #2/outside threat that can naturally separate from man coverage but i look at the needs and i struggle to find room to use an adequate draft pick(First 4 rounds) on that this year with the needs. Now depending on how free agency goes for us maybe we can, let's take a look at the needs...

    For me ILB and DT are locked in as positions that have to be addressed early. With the anticipation that Kruger is gone we have to replace his pass rushing in this draft as well. Whether Ed Reed is brought back or not i think we have to draft a FS because even if Ed is back he's had injury issues, Thompson is coming off an injury, and i like Omar Brown a lot but im not sure if he's ready to make that kind of jump yet. LT is also a position i think has to be address with an heir apparent in a ideal situation.

    So those are 5 spots i view as higher needs then WR. Now if we could do a lot of moving up and down the board and obtain more picks rounds 2 thru 4 then i could see it but if not i think it's gonna be difficult. Now if anybody knows any prospects rounds 5 thru 7 that have some outside WR upside who would be better then say Thompson or Streeter with a year under their belts then that's fine but that is gonna be increasingly difficult to find. I really like Ace Sanders as a 5th rd guy but his small and probably will be slot only.

    Then again if a really good WR falls then Oz and Co. will take him because they dont sacrifice value very often, so all i said could have been a moot point lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    You know, that's very true and an aspect i underrated. There is a good amount of ILB's im comfortable with rounds 2-4. Same can be said for the free safety position. NT is interesting because i think it's pretty scarce as far as legit 3-4 nose tackles that could contribute early but it's not like you have to take one in the first to ensure you get one. I like Brandon Williams a lot and he could be had in the 2nd or 3rd, probably 2nd the way he's rising. LT i think you go with a developmental guy like Quessenberry and im keeping an close eye on Luke Marquadt from Asuza Pacific http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profil...rdt?id=2539644

    So after careful thought and your post, forget my whole last post lol
    I wouldn't say "forget your whole last post." You actually did a really good job of breaking down the overall hierarchy of needs and I agree with the way you presented it 100%. But as you acknowledged, Ozzie will not draft based on the hierarchy of needs; he'll try to fill the needs by taking the best available player at each round. That means that even if ILB is our "worst need" it doesn't need to be our highest pick. I do expect to see them try to address every single position you listed, and I would add WR and interior OL depth to those needs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscull View Post
    If Montgomery falls all the way to 32, something is wrong with the other GM's...
    I have heard from many reports that NFL teams are not very high on Montgomery. His own strength and conditioning coach was dogging him and a bunch of other LSU players as not being committed to the weight room and film study, and those are not optional elements of the football player's craft at the NFL level like they are in college. The dude definitely seems to give it 100% on the field, though.

    Me personally, I would rank all of the following DEs ahead of Sam Montgomery: 1) Damontre Moore 2) Bjoern Werner 3) Ziggy Ansah 4) Dion Jordan 5) Alex Okafor 6) Barkevious Mingo 7) Datone Jones




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I don't follow college much, but it seems this draft is lacking in Offensive playmakers.

    It seems in general to be a draft without a lot of high profile guys in it. I am correct in this opinion?

    Personally I think we need to address LB and LT most.

    Maybe another TE if Dickson leaves. I am always interested in WR, just because I want Joe to have weapons for the future.

    You guys have way more knowledge about college than I do, I am just a pure NFL junkie (fantasy nerd).

    Should we just load up on DEF players since we are set at RB, decent at WR (assuming Boldin stays) and good at TE (Pitta)?




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    I don't follow college much, but it seems this draft is lacking in Offensive playmakers.

    It seems in general to be a draft without a lot of high profile guys in it. I am correct in this opinion?

    Personally I think we need to address LB and LT most.

    Maybe another TE if Dickson leaves. I am always interested in WR, just because I want Joe to have weapons for the future.

    You guys have way more knowledge about college than I do, I am just a pure NFL junkie (fantasy nerd).

    Should we just load up on DEF players since we are set at RB, decent at WR (assuming Boldin stays) and good at TE (Pitta)?
    I think we should. Our offense is pretty good and plays well together. We do however need a good route runner who can get separation. He may already be here (Thompson, Doss) but I wouldn't mind Austin from WVU if he made it to the second.

    If I were in the FO, I would try to resign McKinnie and draft a prospect in the mid-round to replace him. IMO, we have way to many holes on the D-line and up the middle on the LB corps not to go with a D heavy draft.
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