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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    JJ Wilcox (S) looking impressive.
    Only thing with him is he is more of an in the box, strong safety.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    These are players they meet with in the evening for one to one interviews.

    Of course they talk to everyone. But these are reportedly the players they showed particular interest in, most of them make sense apart from the kicker lol (maybe just looking at camp bodies in the pre season)...

    I will say this though. The Ravens showed A LOT of interest in both Bernard Pierce and Gino Gradkowski before the draft last year and ended up picking them with traded picks, so while usually you shouldn't put too much stock into it, the Ravens were reportedly very high on both.
    I'm not sure what to make of it. What use would the Ravens have in drafting Barner or Taylor? Both guys are viewed as 4th rounders or higher and I just cant see the Ravens taking a RB that high when they have LB/S/OT and maybe CB/DT as priority positions




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I knew Lane Johnson was better than a lot of people originally thought, first round for sure.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    These are players they meet with in the evening for one to one interviews.

    Of course they talk to everyone. But these are reportedly the players they showed particular interest in, most of them make sense apart from the kicker lol (maybe just looking at camp bodies in the pre season)...

    I will say this though. The Ravens showed A LOT of interest in both Bernard Pierce and Gino Gradkowski before the draft last year and ended up picking them with traded picks, so while usually you shouldn't put too much stock into it, the Ravens were reportedly very high on both.
    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    "Here is a recap of the player interviews that were conducted on the field after Wednesday's practice by the South team. Typically, these interviews with area scouts are to set up longer, formal interviews for a night during the week. While teams say they "talk" to every player, teams do not take the time to conduct formal interviews with every draft prospect, so this can be a clue as to which players are on their radar."

    That's what Walter football say anyway, who knows which players are truly on the Ravens radar.
    Gotcha.

    I said before it's nice to have names attached to scouts and such so it's all good.

    The real list that gives the most insight are the combine interviews, the school workouts and the prospect visits to the facility.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Mike Mayock is amazed with Haloti Ngata and sounded disgusted when asked about comparing Jon Jenkins to him lol.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Gotcha.

    I said before it's nice to have names attached to scouts and such so it's all good.

    The real list that gives the most insight are the combine interviews, the school workouts and the prospect visits to the facility.
    I agree, the individual work outs are the most important thing when trying to guess who is truly on a teams radar. The Ravens had Upshaw and Pierce in for loads of work outs, so they were both obviously high on their priority list.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Don't get the big deal over Jenkins, just seen him get pushed off the LOS a bunch, flashes now and again because of his strength, but he just looks like another Terrence Cody.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Don't get the big deal over Jenkins, just seen him get pushed off the LOS a bunch, flashes now and again because of his strength, but he just looks like another Terrence Cody.
    If I were an NFL GM I would never even entertain the possibility of taking a space-eating NT in the top half of the first round, honestly not even in the first round at all unless they were a once in a lifetime prospect like Ngata.

    The way the NFL is now if you don't rush the passer or defend the pass on defense you aren't a first rounder. I just don't see the value there. I wouldn't take Jon Jenkins in the top 15 like some are projecting.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Don't get the big deal over Jenkins, just seen him get pushed off the LOS a bunch, flashes now and again because of his strength, but he just looks like another Terrence Cody.
    Yea im starting to hear too many times where guys are getting up under him, inconsistencies, etc. Hearing some good things about NT/DT Brandon Williams however, i think he has big time upside.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I wouldn't read too much into those...it's nice for us fans to see, but from everything I've read from people that cover the Senior Bowl, every team basically meets with and speaks with every player.
    Word.

    They met with Mike Adams twice last year.
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    Again, Quinton Patton and Tavarres King are the two best receivers on the South team. King is a precise route runner and is dominating in the redzone drills, along with Patton.
    Which is funny, because King was largely inconsistent while at Georgia...and it isn't because he didn't have a pretty good QB throwing him the ball...
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Don't get the big deal over Jenkins, just seen him get pushed off the LOS a bunch, flashes now and again because of his strength, but he just looks like another Terrence Cody.
    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    If I were an NFL GM I would never even entertain the possibility of taking a space-eating NT in the top half of the first round, honestly not even in the first round at all unless they were a once in a lifetime prospect like Ngata.

    The way the NFL is now if you don't rush the passer or defend the pass on defense you aren't a first rounder. I just don't see the value there. I wouldn't take Jon Jenkins in the top 15 like some are projecting.
    Yeah, not a fan of Jenkins or drafting a pure NT in the first round.

    I'd rather try and sign Casey Hampton for a year or 2 and look for a pure space eater later in the draft...let him develop.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Don't get the big deal over Jenkins, just seen him get pushed off the LOS a bunch, flashes now and again because of his strength, but he just looks like another Terrence Cody.
    You were really high on him a few weeks ago.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Yeah, not a fan of Jenkins or drafting a pure NT in the first round.

    I'd rather try and sign Casey Hampton for a year or 2 and look for a pure space eater later in the draft...let him develop.
    I'd rather them move to a damn 4-3 alignment and take advantage of the players that they currently have on the roster...

    Suggs - DE
    Upshaw - DE
    Ngata - DT
    A. Jones - DT
    McPhee - DE/DT
    Cody - NT/DT
    McAdoo - DE
    Hamilton - DE
    Kruger (if retained) - Sam LB/DE
    Ellerbe - Mike LB
    McClain - Mike LB
    McClellan - Sam LB/DE

    Plus, this opens up SO many more LB's coming out of college now that we can draft.

    Khaseem Greene, Gerald Hodges, Jalani Jenkins, Shaq Wilson, Mike Taylor, James Morris...

    Those guys are good LB prospects and while some of them might function decently as a 3-4 ILB, a lot of them are much better fits as 4-3 OLB's.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Carey View Post
    Yea im starting to hear too many times where guys are getting up under him, inconsistencies, etc. Hearing some good things about NT/DT Brandon Williams however, i think he has big time upside.
    I think Brandon Williams could be a decent pick at the end of the 4th round. I was hoping he would go unnoticed. Another small school guy that looks intriguing for the end of round 5 would be Terron Armstead (OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff). He appears to be having a good week though, so he probably won't fly under the radar like I thought he might. I originally thought he would last until the end of the 6th, but probably not now.




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