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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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01-03-2013, 02:56 PM #819Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
You can quibble over whether he's 20th or 18th as much as you want, but he IS that bad. I went back and reviewed all of Filmstudy's excellent OL reviews of the year, and Oher's average score is a 68... which is a D+, and he's only had 3 games graded above a C. Most of his grades are D's, and that doesn't include the last game of the season, but I can tell you Oher gave up at least a sack, a QB hit, and 2 hurries through only 9 pass-blocking snaps. I would give him an F for his work with the first team in that game.
By average grade, Oher has been the team's worst offensive lineman this year (excluding Bobbie Williams) and this has certainly been his worst season as a pro by far. He's trending downwards badly at this point and the worst thing is I think he knows full well how bad he's been this year and that's why he's starting to give up on a lot of blocks and not give 100% effort on the field.
I really think the team needs to just move him to guard to try to salvage his confidence and make better use of his athleticism and strength. He could be a dominant zone-blocking left guard.
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
Here's the thing...you can't totally go off of Film's grades unless he graded the others.
I'm simply saying that none of us...none of use pay anywhere near as close attention to other OT's to blatently say, Oher is ranked in the bottom 20. I simply don't believe that is true and that's really all I'm saying.Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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01-03-2013, 03:27 PM #822
Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
I'm jsut going to give Bmorecareful a big thumbs up, pretty much agreed all around. Oher is certainly outide the top 20, the tier's are pretty much exactly how ou list them, and Oher really is THAT bad. Bushrod may not be an upgrade, but he probably wouldn't be much of a downgrade either. You could say that Oher has the potential to be better then some, but what is curious to me is that all we hear about is his great work ethic, yet he has consistantly goten worse throughout his pro career. His rookie season was absolutely his best season, and it has been a steady decline to this yea, very obviously his worst season. I "suppose" last year at RT MAY have been better then the prior year at LT, maybe. Don't forget, last I knew he was leading the entire league at any position in penalties committed since the day he stepped on the field.
Saffold might even be in Oher's area...
Kalil is a stud... flat out stud.
And the "they haven't won anything" argument is odd, because neither have Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson or really any other top flight wideout.
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
I'm actually ''fall in love with a prospect mode'' with Matt Elam more than I have been for quite a long time. You wanna talk about replacing a vocal/emotional leader, that's Matt Elam. He plays like Ray Lewis as a safety, he isn't a ball hawk like Ed Reed, he's more of a Brian Dawkins. He is just a Raven through and through.
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01-03-2013, 03:55 PM #825Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
I was just talking about that in an earlier post on this thread. Ed Reed used to be the best not only because he was an unparalleled ballhawk but also because now and again he would drop down from his FS spot and blitz for an unblocked sack or force a fumble from a RB. He can still be a force in coverage at times but he's not physical anymore and he doesn't make those scary plays shooting downfield like a missile anymore.
Matt Elam is a guy who looks like he could be that sort of safety like Ed Reed used to be. VERY physical and good against the run... in addition to being able to cover man to man and over the top. Great player and I am also 100% on his bandwagon. He's my favorite safety in the class, I'm also a fan of Phillip Thomas, DJ Swearinger, and Kenny Vaccaro.
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01-03-2013, 03:58 PM #826
Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
Finally a few people on the Elam bandwagon.
Elam and brown!
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
Just wondering, who are some guys to take a look at in tonight's bowl game?
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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread
I said that in regards that the team has to do whatever possible to get an elite guy.
You don't need an elite LT to win and I don't think if we don't win a Super Bowl that Oher will be the reason why.
And that's why I'm sure the team is not going to package a bunch of picks to go up 10+ spots for one. If one is sitting there that they really like close to their pick...maybe. But not in the first half and probably not top 20.Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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