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    Re: Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)



    saw this on a chiefs forum:





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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Wow.

    This is an incredibly QB starved league.

    Well, Andy Reid was bound to get raped on a QB trade after he's unloaded all his QB garbage on others.
    The other thing too is Andy Reid is very good at getting production from avg QB's.

    Kolb, AJ Feely, Vick...

    I think it is a good situation for both Alex Smith and Andy Reid.


    Don't be surprised if Andy Reid uses a mid round pick on someone like Zac Dysert, Marqueis Gray, or Colby Cameron.
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    Assuming we sign Flacco and fill defensive needs in FA, why not complete the offense around Flacco? Why not double up on two promising offensive players with the first two picks and get Tavon Austin (would instantly be an impact player, and would complete an already solid WR corps), and get your future franchise LT like a Menelik Watson with the 2nd round pick (may need to trade up a bit to secure him). Then use the other picks on mid round defensive prospects like Kevin Reddick.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Assuming we sign Flacco and fill defensive needs in FA, why not complete the offense around Flacco? Why not double up on two promising offensive players with the first two picks and get Tavon Austin (would instantly be an impact player, and would complete an already solid WR corps), and get your future franchise LT like a Menelik Watson with the 2nd round pick (may need to trade up a bit to secure him). Then use the other picks on mid round defensive prospects like Kevin Reddick.
    I just don't think we'll have the loot. We'll see how the FA landscape shakes out (cuts, market rates, etc.)...




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Assuming we sign Flacco and fill defensive needs in FA, why not complete the offense around Flacco? Why not double up on two promising offensive players with the first two picks and get Tavon Austin (would instantly be an impact player, and would complete an already solid WR corps), and get your future franchise LT like a Menelik Watson with the 2nd round pick (may need to trade up a bit to secure him). Then use the other picks on mid round defensive prospects like Kevin Reddick.
    I've been on the Tavon Austin bandwagon. I'd love to get him. I just think he'll be gone by 32.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Assuming we sign Flacco and fill defensive needs in FA, why not complete the offense around Flacco? Why not double up on two promising offensive players with the first two picks and get Tavon Austin (would instantly be an impact player, and would complete an already solid WR corps), and get your future franchise LT like a Menelik Watson with the 2nd round pick (may need to trade up a bit to secure him). Then use the other picks on mid round defensive prospects like Kevin Reddick.
    I believe this would be a viable strategy. It's going to depend on who the BPA is of course and which position groups are stronger than others throughout the draft.

    The OT group is very shallow this year. After the top 3 guys, there's a pretty big dropoff to Terron Armstead, Menelik Watson, etc. but those guys are still going to go fairly early due to positional value. I don't see Ozzie reaching for one of them, so that could reduce our likelihood of getting one of those sort of uber-talented raw/project guys.

    I still think we'll acquire a technically sound guy without elite athleticism or measurables in the mid rounds to potentially be our LT of the future like a Quessenberry, Bakhtiari, etc. WR is another story... guys like DeAndre Hopkins and Tavon Austin would be legit BPA candidates at #32. I could easily see WR being the pick, although the dream scenario is probably still a FS or ILB dropping to #32.

    Pass rusher I feel can be filled in the middle rounds. Brandon Jenkins is a guy I would target. Same for NT... Brandon Williams is the guy I would target although I wouldn't be upset with Jesse Williams, Kwame Geathers, or Montori Hughes. All of those are 2nd-4th type of guys and I feel all of them would be at least viable rotational guys to take snaps away from Cody in 2013 and start in 2014.

    Again, those are just a few examples of how the depth and shallow positions in the draft shake out.




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    Alex Smith to KC makes sense; I don't expect Geno Smith to be drafted very high but it will be 1st
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Alex Smith to KC makes sense; I don't expect Geno Smith to be drafted very high but it will be 1st
    Cleveland, Buffalo, or Arizona could target him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Cleveland, Buffalo, or Arizona could target him.
    There's no doubt in my mind geno smith will be a top 5 pick.

    People have short memories. I keep hearing how there's no sure thing QB prospects. When is there?? Last year was an absolute anomaly, not the norm.

    In 2011 Jake locker and Blaine Gabbert were top ten picks. Christian Ponder 12th overall??? If Glennon were in that draft he would have gone before ponder just on upside alone, and he's what, the third, fourth best QB prospect this year?

    There is going to be two QBs taken in the top ten is my guess, probably 4 in the first round. I set the QB O/U at 3.
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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...ack/index.html

    3. The Ravens and Joe Flacco are making progress. The club negotiator, Pat Moriarty, and agent Joe Linta spent four hours together Friday night, then were spotted at the Capital Grille having dinner. This isn't degenerating into what happened last summer -- yet, and I don't think it will -- when Linta and Flacco walked away with a deal agonizingly close. The Ravens know they can find a way to do a cap-friendly deal in years one and two, Flacco knows he doesn't want to leave Baltimore, and the extended conversation is a good sign that the two sides can reach a five- or six-year deal to keep the unsigned Flacco in Baltimore through the middle of his prime years before free agency opens in two weeks.




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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...ack/index.html

    3. The Ravens and Joe Flacco are making progress. The club negotiator, Pat Moriarty, and agent Joe Linta spent four hours together Friday night, then were spotted at the Capital Grille having dinner. This isn't degenerating into what happened last summer -- yet, and I don't think it will -- when Linta and Flacco walked away with a deal agonizingly close. The Ravens know they can find a way to do a cap-friendly deal in years one and two, Flacco knows he doesn't want to leave Baltimore, and the extended conversation is a good sign that the two sides can reach a five- or six-year deal to keep the unsigned Flacco in Baltimore through the middle of his prime years before free agency opens in two weeks.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirdowski View Post
    There's no doubt in my mind geno smith will be a top 5 pick.

    People have short memories. I keep hearing how there's no sure thing QB prospects. When is there?? Last year was an absolute anomaly, not the norm.

    In 2011 Jake locker and Blaine Gabbert were top ten picks. Christian Ponder 12th overall??? If Glennon were in that draft he would have gone before ponder just on upside alone, and he's what, the third, fourth best QB prospect this year?

    There is going to be two QBs taken in the top ten is my guess, probably 4 in the first round. I set the QB O/U at 3.
    i agree. also this is a copy cat league so teams will gamble to get the next rgIII, kaep, wilson...i say top 10 tho not top 5




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    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    i agree. also this is a copy cat league so teams will gamble to get the next rgIII, kaep, wilson...i say top 10 tho not top 5
    I don't think he will. Look at the teams at the top of the draft, especially if KC gets a QB in free agency. Those teams need Olinemen and perhaps Dline. I don't see Smith in the top 5 picks
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    What do people think of Matt Furstenburg as a potential late H-Back type?
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    What do people think of Matt Furstenburg as a potential late H-Back type?
    I think that is what is going to happen. I like his hands, smarts and good speed. I bet with the new NFL's focus on passing he will be a 5th rounder. I think he will have a decent NFL career. He has good seam speed and would be good vs zone coverage and could line him up at FB also and used for out of the backfield plays. I like him as a prospect mid rounds of course (5th)




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