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  1. #1876

    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Eiffert and/or Ertz are MUCH better than Driessen or Tamme. If Peyton asked for one of those guys, I don't think they would bat an eye.

    Finley is out in Green Bay. He's a FA, Rogers doesn't care for him, he is athletic, but sucks as a blocker and has inconsistent hands.

    Chicago does need OL and LB's, but they've also blatantly stated numerous times how bad of an idea it was to trade away Greg Olsen because now outside of Marshall, they have no one to throw it to.

    I'm not disagreeing with you that if Eiffert or Ertz drop the Ravens should consider them, however I'm not convinced that someone like Escobar, Williams, or Travis Kelce wouldn't be better value later in the draft allowing the Ravens to potentially target a Matt Elam or someone of that nature in the 1st two rounds.

    That's a tough decision.
    I know Denver..being I live their part time, is looking at DB's & Safety help. They dont need offense they score plenty. Chicago has plenty of $ tied up on offense Marshall, 2 Rb's and Jeffreys( who was very good before getting hurt) they could take a TE however, but have other pressing needs. GB's problem is both lines and and MAJOR holes on defense. They score plenty also. I am not against Matt Elam or Reid as a safety, but think they will drop into the lower second round like to se the Ravens trade thier 2nd round selection + 4th rounder & later round pick to move up to the top of round 2 to get BOTH a quallity TE and S/Defensive player of impact. No way 11 picks can be used effectively to make the team.




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    Ravor has been doing this cap stuff for years and he has ALWAYS...ALWAYS been at least within a million of the actual figures.

    Given a gap this large, I definitely believe Ravor over Shefter.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Ravor has been doing this cap stuff for years and he has ALWAYS...ALWAYS been at least within a million of the actual figures.

    Given a gap this large, I definitely believe Ravor over Shefter.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Also a distinct possibility. Though, I will say that Schefter doesn't usually say things unless he hears it from somewhere...

    So, it is possible that someone told him this.
    I saw the piece on tv earlier today. Not knocking the guy, but for all the information /context he provided (which is none) he could have just lifted the info in his report from the idle speculation from this board. Not that it's an outlandish thing to think -- Boldin is an obvious candidate to become a cap casualty, that isn't news. To us anyway.

    But he didn't suggest or provide any info -- just threw it all out there. Not a major story, nothing we didn't already know, and no value-add to the story to suggest he had info from inside the Castle about who was going to be cut, etc. Nothing of the sort.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I also have to question his sources, there is no way anybody inside the Ravens organization would reveal anything like that in SB week?




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I also have to question his sources, there is no way anybody inside the Ravens organization would reveal anything like that in SB week?
    Not anyone of consequence at least.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Not anyone of consequence at least.
    I can't imagine anyone in the organization has approached any Raven player during the playoffs to tell them they were going to be released and weren't coming back. That would be beyond stupid.




  8. #1883

    Premature draft talk.

    Given that we have so many young guys, so many guys on IR and probably 11 draft picks i'd like to see them trade into next year like maybe a 3 and a 4 for somebody's 2 next year. I don't recall Oz ever doing that but belichek worked it very well for several years there. Once it gets going it seems like a team can continue in that vein if a good trade is available. Seems like the main problem is to have a stockpile of players and picks to get it started. Also next year Kruger and maybe Reed and Williams will bring decent comp picks and it doesn't likely that we will spend much on free agents this year.,




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    Re: Premature draft talk.

    There's almost a 100 page thread dedicated to draft talk.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    If the ravens do cut Boldin, and draft a TE early couldn't they possibly slide Pitta to the slot? He would fill boldins role very nicely as he is physical and can go up and get the ball? Honestly I think we should draft the top safety in the first, double dip at linebacker, get a nt and then a receiver. This is the draft to replenish the defense, the offense under Caldwell seems to be clicking and do not need many pieces except for a possible LT, which I do not think one will fall far enough for us to get one. We need speed, and pass rushers. I think safety is the most important need in this years draft. The Ravens are not going to sell a whole draft to get that immediate impact LT and I'm going to be pissed as hell if they draft Aboushi he was abysmal during sr bowl practice




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    Re: Premature draft talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by duffybr View Post
    Given that we have so many young guys, so many guys on IR and probably 11 draft picks i'd like to see them trade into next year like maybe a 3 and a 4 for somebody's 2 next year. I don't recall Oz ever doing that but belichek worked it very well for several years there. Once it gets going it seems like a team can continue in that vein if a good trade is available. Seems like the main problem is to have a stockpile of players and picks to get it started. Also next year Kruger and maybe Reed and Williams will bring decent comp picks and it doesn't likely that we will spend much on free agents this year.,
    That is definitely a possibility.

    However, though this draft isn't what I would call "Top Heavy" with talent, there is still a lot of talent to be had, so with 11 picks you have to think that they would be able to target specific guys that they really want.
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    Re: Premature draft talk.

    How would you guys feel if we picked Jonathan Hankins with our first round pick?




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    Re: Premature draft talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    How would you guys feel if we picked Jonathan Hankins with our first round pick?
    I would be down for that.

    The guy is similar to BJ Raji. Very dominant DT with good push and run stopping ability. He'd be a major upgrade over Cody and Ma'ake, IMO.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    I can't imagine anyone in the organization has approached any Raven player during the playoffs to tell them they were going to be released and weren't coming back. That would be beyond stupid.
    Well, these players understand it is a business.

    I'm sure Boldin, Ozzie, and Harbs have all chatted and I'm sure they've let him know that there is a possibility that he may not be back with the Ravens next year unless they can figure out a contract extension. However, maybe they told him that they wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and explore his options for his - potentially - last deal.

    I want to see Boldin retire a Raven though. Inconsistency aside, when he's on, he is one of the best slot receivers in the game. Had Caldwell been calling the shots all season, I think Boldin easily would have surpassed 1,000 yards and 80 receptions.
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    Re: Premature draft talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    How would you guys feel if we picked Jonathan Hankins with our first round pick?
    I would feel good about that pick. He could probably start Day 1 at NT.




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