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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Man, I was hoping Marquise Goodwin would be a good option for us in the 5th round or so...but from the reports down there, he likely is moving up a round or 2.
    Maybe...maybe not. Keep in mind, there are still a lot of guys who will be at the combine who are underclassmen.

    Also, Goodwin is pretty tiny. Not that his size makes him less valuable, but there are limitations and I don't know that many teams would take him before the 3rd round. Tavon Austin may drop as well.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by PalladinInNC View Post
    True, but the Ravens could use a backup QB. I'm not sold on Taylor being a good enough alternative!
    Well, is Tyrod a good fit for the offense that Flacco predominately runs? Probably not.

    However, I'd like to think that if Flacco were to not be able to play and Tyrod were in the game, Caldwell would have plays/packages designed to utilize Taylor's strengths.

    If they want a QB that fits more along the lines of Flacco, then they probably should be looking at Jason Campbell.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Maybe...maybe not. Keep in mind, there are still a lot of guys who will be at the combine who are underclassmen.

    Also, Goodwin is pretty tiny. Not that his size makes him less valuable, but there are limitations and I don't know that many teams would take him before the 3rd round. Tavon Austin may drop as well.
    I'd much rather go with Austin over Goodwin. Maybe that's just my familiarity but I've seen Austin beat up on bigger corners (route-wise) in college, haven't seen that from Goodwin yet.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Well, is Tyrod a good fit for the offense that Flacco predominately runs? Probably not.

    However, I'd like to think that if Flacco were to not be able to play and Tyrod were in the game, Caldwell would have plays/packages designed to utilize Taylor's strengths.

    If they want a QB that fits more along the lines of Flacco, then they probably should be looking at Jason Campbell.
    I think the whole thinking behind Tyrod is that if Flacco were to go down for a game or two, teams would have a hard time preparing for the kind of gameplan that Tyrod would be running. Just the novelty alone probably gives you a shot to steal a game or two. If Flacco goes down with a serious injury it doesn't matter anyway because that season is shot.

    No interest IMO in going out and getting a backup QB on the open market. They can't spare the money. I'd rather just see them spend another 6th or 7th round pick on a more pure drop-back type QB, maybe somebody who flies under the radar because of playing at a small school or whatever. (Sean Renfree? Brad Sorenson? There are several good options out there.) Develop him and see what he can turn into.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    For center depth, Joe Madsen from WVU has had a very solid day in one on ones. He could be a nice 5-7 round pickup for depth purposes. He's big and squat, exactly what you want from a center.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    How much cap room do we open up after Ray, Bobbie Williams, and Birk retire?




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    I think the whole thinking behind Tyrod is that if Flacco were to go down for a game or two, teams would have a hard time preparing for the kind of gameplan that Tyrod would be running. Just the novelty alone probably gives you a shot to steal a game or two. If Flacco goes down with a serious injury it doesn't matter anyway because that season is shot.

    No interest IMO in going out and getting a backup QB on the open market. They can't spare the money. I'd rather just see them spend another 6th or 7th round pick on a more pure drop-back type QB, maybe somebody who flies under the radar because of playing at a small school or whatever. (Sean Renfree? Brad Sorenson? There are several good options out there.) Develop him and see what he can turn into.
    I've subscribed to the "athletic backup QB" for a few years now... In the middle of a game if the starter goes down, it can be very, veryeffective in moving the ball. After a few weeks, however, you are correct. Additionally, it exposes yoru backup to injury as well, which long term isn't the best idea. So to go a step further, I like the idea of an athletic backup, and another pocket passer as 3rd string, and sometimes the 3rd string guy would be where I turn if I have a week to prepare my offense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    I think the whole thinking behind Tyrod is that if Flacco were to go down for a game or two, teams would have a hard time preparing for the kind of gameplan that Tyrod would be running. Just the novelty alone probably gives you a shot to steal a game or two. If Flacco goes down with a serious injury it doesn't matter anyway because that season is shot.

    No interest IMO in going out and getting a backup QB on the open market. They can't spare the money. I'd rather just see them spend another 6th or 7th round pick on a more pure drop-back type QB, maybe somebody who flies under the radar because of playing at a small school or whatever. (Sean Renfree? Brad Sorenson? There are several good options out there.) Develop him and see what he can turn into.
    Honestly, we could probably pick up Shane Renfree as a UDFA.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscull View Post
    How much cap room do we open up after Ray, Bobbie Williams, and Birk retire?
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quinton Patton is a guy I want. Just made a beautiful contested catch on the sideline. Coverage was great but somehow he came down with it. He's the best receiver on the South team.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by s.r.genovese View Post
    Quinton Patton is a guy I want. Just made a beautiful contested catch on the sideline. Coverage was great but somehow he came down with it. He's the best receiver on the South team.
    heh...he's really showing-off down there.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by s.r.genovese View Post
    I'd much rather go with Austin over Goodwin. Maybe that's just my familiarity but I've seen Austin beat up on bigger corners (route-wise) in college, haven't seen that from Goodwin yet.
    Nobody would take Goodwin before Austin...in no way was I suggesting that...and I don't think Wiked was either.

    Austin is a sure fire high second round pick IMHO.

    Goodwin was a guy I was hoping would be there for us to take at the end of the 5th round.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Another observation from last night, SYR WR Alec Lemon is really slow.

    Also, we talked to SJSU TE Ryan Otten, and I've read reports that he needs to work on his blocking.
    So a straight-up Dickson "replacement"? (If so, I'd rather have Escobar or Kelce.)
    Or was our west coast scout just not able to catch up with him during the season?




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    There is nobody in this draft I'd trade up for apart from Star Louteilei or Johnathan Hankins. I think Matt Elam or Barrett Jones are just about the safest picks for us. I'd probably take Eric Reid in the 2nd round if I was considering to trade back.
    If the Ravens plan to leave Osmele at guard than I don't see Barrett Jones as a safe pick. The Ravens are going to have a ton of holes to fill through the draft and free agency. Using first rounder on a C after using a very high 4th rounder the previous year does not make sense. I would be very disappointed if they had written off an Olinemen after 1 year. He held up well in the limited snaps I he got at the end of the year. The first, second and third rounders really need to be use on positions of need this year. Guys that can come in and potentially start. S, LT, MLB and WR are the biggest areas of need.




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    1. We need not screw with the current version of our OL. Give McKinnie another year or two and that gives us more time to find our starting LT.

    2. Our depth chart pretty much = current starter then FA/Trade then Draftee by year, and by round. Only injuries break that formula.

    So when Birk retires after we beat SF, Gino will be the #1 center. Jones' value spot will probably be a bit too high for just depth so we'll pass. Same with my boy Travis Frederick. Obviously, if someone falls then we could grab em.

    This draft is looking more like a defensive heavy one WRT starters. Any OL draftees will be for depth and will come in round 3 and beyond I'm thinking.
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