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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread



    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    That performance didn't hurt his draft stock at all.
    Eh. I wouldn't go that far, but I agree I exaggerated.

    I do agree also that it doesn't make much sense not coming out.


    I question the competitive edge of any young man who doesn't want to move to the highest level and play against the best as soon as he's eligible.
    Your right in some scenarios, but there are just too many scenarios for that to always be the case.

    Exhibit A - Andrew Luck
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    From Lewan:
    Generic and lame.

    (Insert praise about University and tradition) (Insert dramatic statement about team/mates) (Insert desire to win conference/national championship)
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirdowski View Post
    Generic and lame.

    (Insert praise about University and tradition) (Insert dramatic statement about team/mates) (Insert desire to win conference/national championship)
    I don't think it's lame. Maybe the kid just wanted to finish his degree? Even with Matthews likely being the top rated OT going into next year, Lewan is still pretty much a lock to be a top 20 pick. Probably top 10 or top 5 if he has an even better senior year.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    www.nfldraftcentral.com has a pretty good database of top rated seniors, juniors, sophomores, and freshman.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I don't think it's lame. Maybe the kid just wanted to finish his degree? Even with Matthews likely being the top rated OT going into next year, Lewan is still pretty much a lock to be a top 20 pick. Probably top 10 or top 5 if he has an even better senior year.
    If your objective is to maximize the amount of money you can make over your NFL career, then it makes no sense to stay in school. If you have another objective, then that's fine, but it's pretty likely that he'll make somewhat less money over the course of his NFL career by devoting a potential year of it to staying in school. Adding in the risk of injury, and he may very well regret the decision, but... hey, it's his life.

    As far as winning a title goes... not with my alma mater in the conference, with Urban Meyer at the helm




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirdowski View Post
    Generic and lame.

    (Insert praise about University and tradition) (Insert dramatic statement about team/mates) (Insert desire to win conference/national championship)
    Do you feel the same way about the BYU players who take off two years to go on a Mormon mission? After all, they too are essentially delaying their entry into the NFL and risking millions of dollars.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    QB/RB/WR Denard Robinson looks like he is going to be taking reps as a receiver at the Senior Bowl.

    The guy is stupid fast and athletic. Decent size, 6'/6'1" 195-200lbs.

    If he performs well at the Senior Bowl as a receiver (good routes, good hands, etc) then I could see a team picking him up as a 3rd or 4th rounder.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I selfishly want as many top juniors to come out as that just pushes more good players down to us who are always drafting at the bottom of the round. So yes, the selfish part of me is annoyed that Matthews, Lewan and Mosely (who I REALLY wanted here, but it's obvious at this point that whenever he declares he is going to be a top 15 pick) decide to stay in school.

    But really, I can never be mad at a kid for staying in school...I'm assuming they will graduate.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I'd like to see Taylor Lewan to go up to a guy like Ray Lewis and say "In the NFL, you just come and go.".




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    I know it's one game, but I don't want a guy that got trucked in the biggest game of his life...on the goal line of all places!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    QB/RB/WR Denard Robinson looks like he is going to be taking reps as a receiver at the Senior Bowl.

    The guy is stupid fast and athletic. Decent size, 6'/6'1" 195-200lbs.

    If he performs well at the Senior Bowl as a receiver (good routes, good hands, etc) then I could see a team picking him up as a 3rd or 4th rounder.
    One of the few guys for which the "Draft bowls" AND the Combine will really mean a lot. Curious to see his hands and feet myself. No expectations... just curious.
    "On their way to the podium, the Ravens FO is going to collectively step over my dead body and select...Breshad Perriman." -- Me, the day before the Draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_Raven_Fan View Post
    I know it's one game, but I don't want a guy that got trucked in the biggest game of his life...on the goal line of all places!
    That speed and size tore him up. Not sure what I think about him now. Need to re-watch film...
    "On their way to the podium, the Ravens FO is going to collectively step over my dead body and select...Breshad Perriman." -- Me, the day before the Draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    Do you feel the same way about the BYU players who take off two years to go on a Mormon mission? After all, they too are essentially delaying their entry into the NFL and risking millions of dollars.
    I was only talking about his response.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    One of the few guys for which the "Draft bowls" AND the Combine will really mean a lot. Curious to see his hands and feet myself. No expectations... just curious.
    Well, you know he is going to run a stupid 40.

    I remember reading about him as a freshman at Michigan and supposedly he ran in the mid 4.2's consistently. I know he is athletic as hell, so I could totally see teams that like to spread the ball out taking a gamble on him in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th rounds as a slash/return specialist type of player.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Some other guys to check out:

    Dallas Thomas, Tennessee, 6'5" 310lbs. Can play guard and tackle. Mid 2nd round grade most likely. Could sneak into the early 2nd if OT's start flying off the board.


    RJ Mattes, NC State, 6'6" 309lbs. Predominately a LT. Probably a 5th or 6th rounder. Not a very high ceiling, but would be good depth with possible starting capability.


    Quinton Dial, Alabama, DT/DE, 6'6" 300lbs. Very solid 5-tech guy. I think he is pretty underrated. With a big combine he could go in the bottom of the 2nd round to a 3-4 team. Probably a mid 3rd round grade though.


    Greg Blair, Cinci, LB, 6'1" 251lbs. Another underrated player IMO. Could be a nice project guy in the 5th or 6th rounds.
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