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    I hope we have a deep defensive draft and get some better talent on the D line and at ILB. Bring back Ellerbe and Kruger. McClain can go. Hopefully Pees is gone too.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I see late 2nd at the highest. Lavonte David is a very comparable linebacker and he went at pick 58 last year.
    Just realized that my questions could have been interpreted as rhetorical or negative...sorry about that.
    Which game?
    I was watching TTU and Miami. I saw a few good plays but from play-to-play, I expected to see more.
    I'm dying to find us a solid ILB so I want to run Brown to ground.




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    In terms of drafting sides of the ball. I'd be fine if we only took 1 offensive lineman. The only WR we are going to draft that will be better than Doss (potential and right away) would have to be done in the first three rounds. I think our first 3 rounds need to be OL/DL/ILB (in no order)

    We have 2 project WR's (Streeter, Thompson and I guess there's always Williams), enough depth at QB and RB.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Regarding WR's - both Thompson and LaQuan Williams have been pretty good in limited action.

    Streeter has a ton of potential, but is really raw.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    My December Edition, Rounds 1-3.
    *I do not factor in trades. You can't. It is impossible.
    *Picks are based on a combination of need and BPA (I feel that most GMs and Coaches employ this strategy).
    *Players are selected where I think their current stock is and where it could potentially be.

    Round 1:
    1. Kansas City Chiefs (2-8) Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia (6’3” 215lbs).
    Kansas City probably could be a playoff contender if they had better play from their QB. What is even more amazing is that Jamaal Charles is able to do anything considering all defenses know the Chiefs are going to run the ball. Rumors are flying that after this season is over the Chiefs are going to clean house and cut bait on a lot of overpriced players who just aren’t that good. Geno Smith is someone that they could build a franchise around. He has a great arm, is mobile, and gets rid of the ball quickly. Previous Pick: No change.

    2. Jacksonville Jaguars (2-8) Manti T’eo, LB, Notre Dame (6’2” 245lbs).
    Personally, I think the ILB position in general has lost a lot of value as the league has developed into more of a passing league, but T’eo is hands down the best overall player in this draft. How many linebackers are finalists for the Heisman? He does everything well and is a great leader for the Irish on and off the field. Jacksonville will likely consider several different positions with this pick, but T’eo is the best player available and it isn’t like Jacksonville’s defense couldn’t use him. Previous Pick: Matt Barkley.

    3. Philadelphia Eagles (3-9) Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah (6’4” 330lbs). Andy Reid is gone and the Eagles are going to clean house. I know that they really need an offensive tackle, but I think Lotulelei is going to be too good to pass up. He is arguably the best player in the draft behind T’eo. Lotulelei can stuff the run and has excellent athleticism for a man his size, which makes him a nice interior pass rusher as well. The Eagles are going to have to make some tough decisions with some of their aging players (Mike Patterson & Cullen Jenkins) and Lotulelei would be an excellent compliment beside Fletcher Cox. Previous Pick: Luke Joeckel.

    4. Oakland Raiders (3-9) Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama (6’1” 190lbs).
    Milliner has been an outstanding cornerback for the Crimson Tide this year. He has nice fluidity and can turn-and-run with ease. He breaks on the ball well and he has nice size to go along with solid speed. He compares heavily to Stephon Gilmore, who went to the Bills last year in round 1. Oakland tried to address cornerback and drafted Demarcus Van Dyke last year, but they cut him after letting Nnamdi, Stanford Routt, and Chris Johnson go. The Raiders need a lot of help on defense, so getting one of the top defensive players available might be pretty high on their wish list. As a caveat, I think Oakland could very easily make a play to trade up for Manti T’eo. Previous Pick: No Change.

    5. Carolina Panthers (3-9) Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State (6’4” 325lbs).
    Carolina has been skimping at the DT position for years and it is evident when you watch them play. They can’t stop the run and they have a hard time keeping their linebackers clean. At the moment, the only lineman who commands double teams is Charles Johnson and he can’t do it all himself. Hankins is a massive DT with some nice athleticism and burst. He’s a good run stopper and his current numbers don’t really portray how good of a pass rusher he can be. There are some questions about his work ethic, but on the field he is definitely something that Carolina can use in their front 7. Previous Pick: Star Lotulelei.

    6. Cleveland Browns (4-8) Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia (6’3” 240lbs).
    This is a defensively heavy draft, so I think there could be a ton of defensive players taken in the top 20. Jones struggled against Alabama, so I think some teams may pass on him in the top 5, but the talent is there. Jones is a fantastic prospect who can line up at defensive end, outside linebacker, inside linebacker, and is even athletic enough to be able to cover receivers. Cleveland has a good thing going right now and they really just need to get play makers. It doesn’t matter where they play, they just need to get talented players and then find a place for them on that football team. Previous Pick: Damontre Moore.

    7. Tennessee Titans (4-8) – Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M (6’4” 255lbs). Derrick Morgan can’t stay healthy and is teetering on bust status. Kameiron Wimbley is more of a run stopper than a pass rusher and frankly, the Titans really don’t have anyone else on their roster that can really put significant pressure on opposing QB’s. The Titans have some major issues in their secondary, but improving their pass rush could really help with alleviating some of those issues. Previous Pick: Sam Montgomery.

    8. Arizona Cardinals (4-8) Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M (6’6” 310lbs).
    The Cardinals play the 49er’s and Rams twice a year. That means that they are facing off against Chris Long and Aldon Smith…twice a year. It won’t matter whom they have in at QB because right now the Cardinals have a massive hole at left tackle. They resigned Levi Brown, but he may be the worst left tackle in the league. Joeckel is a fantastic run blocker and pass blocker. He has solid footwork, long arms, and has nice bend. He has been a big reason why freshman QB, Johnny Football, threw for over 4,000 yards and rushed for another 1,000. Previous Pick: Tyler Wilson.

    9. Detroit Lions (4-8) Jonathan Banks, CB, Mississippi State (6’2” 190lbs). This pick is a no-brainer if Banks is there when Detroit is up. The Lions have some serious personnel issues on the defensive side of the ball. They were definitely banking on Aaron Berry this year and his off-field issues forced the Lions’ hands. Offensively, the Lions can hang points on just about anyone, but defensively they just cannot stop anyone from passing all over them. Couple that with ego issues in the front 7 and you have a pretty overrated defense. Banks is long, lean, and very athletic. He’s been a starter in the SEC since he was a freshman and has lined up across from some serious NFL talent (Julio Jones & AJ Green). Previous Pick: Xavier Rhodes.

    10. San Diego Chargers (4-8) Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State (6’2” 217lbs).
    Quinton Jammer is a penalty machine and he just doesn’t have the wheels to really keep up with receivers anymore. He really should slide back to safety and Eric Weddle should slide over to strong safety. Cason and Gilchrest are decent players, but San Diego needs a cornerback that will take away a team’s best receiver. Rhodes is a physical specimen at cornerback and you really just don’t see guys who are this athletic and this size at cornerback. He isn’t as fluid as Dee Milliner or Jonathan Banks, but he is every bit as good at stopping the run and he brings nice ball skills to the table as well. Previous Pick: Justin Hunter.

    11. Miami Dolphins (5-7) Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU (6’4” 260lbs).
    The Dolphins could go a couple of different ways here, but I think Montgomery could be a target of theirs. Cameron Wake is a nice pass rusher, but he isn’t that great of a run defender. Frankly, the Dolphins really don’t have anyone opposite of Wake who can rush the passer. Montgomery is a fantastic all-around defensive end. He rushes the passer well, he plays the run well, he can set the edge, and he has a lot of upside. A lot of folks compare him to Aldon Smith. Previous Pick: Tyler Eiffert.

    12. Buffalo Bills (5-7) Matt Barkley, QB, USC (6’2” 230lbs).
    At one point many felt that Matt Barkley was the #1 overall prospect in this draft. However, an inconsistent season coupled with an injury is going to drop his stock a little. I still think some teams will try to move up and take him because QB’s are a hot commodity and there are several teams that need one. Offensive players on the Bills still feel that Ryan Fitzpatrick can get them to where they want to be, but I’m not 100% sold on that and I don’t believe that the Bills front office is either. Barkley needs some coaching, but he has a solid arm and has a lot of experience as a starter in pressure situations. Previous Pick: Luke Joeckel.

    13. New York Jets (5-7) Jon Jenkins, DT, Georgia (6’3” 351lbs).
    I can’t see Rex Ryan with the Jets after this year and honestly I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of the current coaching staff replaced. Mark Sanchez is a lost cause, but I think the Jets new regime will try and go for the best player available and just kind of see where the chips fall. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them make a play for Matt Barkley or Geno Smith. Jenkins has experience as a 3-4 NT and a 3-4 DE. Not only is he a massive space eater, but he has a nice blend of athleticism, strength, and quickness. Previous Pick: Barkevious Mingo.

    14. New Orleans Saints (5-7) Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU (6’6” 270lbs).
    Ansah has really burst onto the scene. He’s a physical specimen with rare speed, strength, and explosiveness. The guy is pretty incredible. The only reason he probably won’t be a top 10 pick is because he is still kind of a one-year-wonder. I definitely think that some team is going to target this guy early in round 1 because his upside is through the roof. He is every bit the athlete that Jason Pierre-Paul was coming out of college and he has quickly become one of the best defensive ends in the league. The Saints could absolutely use a player of that caliber because their DL really just isn’t very good. Previous Pick: Barrett Jones.
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    15. St. Louis Rams (5-6-1) Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan (6’7” 305lbs). Sam Bradford could potentially be one of the top QB’s in the league, but you wouldn’t know that with how often he ends up on his back. The Rams’ OL is in shambles and they really just need to get better at tackle. Lewan may not be as powerful as Luke Joeckel is, but he’s long and has excellent footwork. He has a lot of upside as a pass blocker and he does a nice job getting low and moving defensive lineman out of the way in the ground game. Taking Lewan would also mean that they could move Rodger Saffold over to RT, which may be a better fit for him. Previous Pick: Jake Matthews.

    16. Minnesota Vikings (6-6) Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri (6’4” 295lbs). The Vikings have some pretty big issues on defense. They aren’t very good at stopping the run and outside of Jared Allen; they don’t have anyone who can put any pressure on opposing QB’s. When you play the Lions, Packers, and Bears twice a year you really want to make sure that you can put bodies on the QB as often as possible. Sheldon Richardson has a nice variety of pass rushing moves and has excellent burst. He needs some coaching on being a run stopper and he needs to become more consistent, but the talent is there and he could easily be a day 1 starter in Minny’s 4-3. Previous Pick: Bjoern Werner.

    17. Dallas Cowboys (6-6) Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M (6’5” 305lbs). Even though Matthews has been a starter at RT for the Aggies, there are many who think he could play guard or even left tackle. The Cowboys seem to like Tyron Smith at LT, but Dough Free really leaves a lot to be desired at RT and frankly, the Cowboys need some major upgrades at both guard positions. The Cowboys could go for a few different positions, but I think Jake Matthews is one of the top rated players available at this point. His bloodline, natural talent, and nasty temperament would make him an ideal guard in the NFL. Previous Pick: Manti T’eo.

    18. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6-6) Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU (6’5” 245lbs). This isn’t exactly a position of need, but if you have a shot at a top rated pass rusher, you should take it. Mingo is a little on the light side, but the guy has blistering speed and quickness. By the time tackles are getting out of their stance, Mingo is already around them. This is a little bit of a drop, but I think some may be concerned with Mingo’s size and the fact that he’s really not that great of a run stopper. There is a possibility that he may be more of a specialist rather than an every down player, but the raw athleticism and upside will be very hard for several teams to pass up. Previous Pick: Logan Ryan.

    19. St. Louis Rams [from Washinton, (6-6)] Tavon Austin, WR, WVU (5’9” 177lbs). Austin is on the small side, but not one person can doubt the guy is an absolute play maker as a receiver, running back, and return specialist. Some may be surprised that I have him as the top receiver in this draft, but this guy can stretch the field and would be an excellent slot receiver for the Rams. In space on their turf, he’d be a legitimate force to be reckoned with. Danny Amendola is a hell of a player, but he’s had some serious injuries the past two seasons and it has really hurt the Rams’ offense. Previous Pick: Keenan Allen.

    20. Cincinnati Bengals (7-5) Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State (6’4” 255lbs). The Bengals have some nice players on the DL and Carlos Dunlap finally looks like he could be coming around as a consistent player. However, Michael Johnson may not be back next year and even if he is, he’s really more of a specialist and not an every down player. Werner has a non-stop motor and is a blue-collar player that would be a great fit in the AFC North. He has an outstanding bull rush, he’s a hard hitter, and makes a lot of plays in the backfield. Previous Pick: Alex Okafor.

    21. Seattle Seahawks (7-5) Da’Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech (6’3” 210lbs). Some folks may scratch their head with this pick, but how many of us saw Pete Carroll taking Bruce Irvin or James Carpenter in the first round? The fact is, Carroll is kind of a wild card in the draft and goes after guys who he wants regardless of their past and what others think about them. The Seahawks really need to get Russell Wilson weapons because Sidney Rice is constantly hurt and Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate are slot receivers. If Rogers hadn’t been kicked off of Tennessee’s program he probably would have been a top 15 pick. The talent is there and the upside is there. He catches the ball well, has great speed for his size, and his ability to pick up tough yards after the catch make him a threat against any defense. Previous Pick: No Change.

    22. Pittsburgh Steelers (7-5) Alex Okafor, DE, Texas (6’4” 265lbs). James Harrison is still a decent player, but he’s going to be expensive and the Steelers could part ways with him after this season. Behind Harrison and LaMarr Woodley, they have very little depth at OLB. Okafor is probably the top rated pass rusher at this point and while it would be a little bit of a challenge for him to transition to 3-4 OLB from a 4-3 DE, but he’s an intelligent player who is a hard worker. Previous Pick: Dion Jordan.

    23. New York Giants (7-5) Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia (6’3” 240lbs). The Giants have been skimping on MLB for a few years now and it has left their defense susceptible to passes over the middle and they have had some troubles against the run. Chase Blackburn is a good run stopper, but he isn’t very good in coverage. The Giants traded for Keith Rivers, but he has really never been the same since getting hurt all those years ago. Ogletree is a fantastic linebacker who can cover a lot of ground quickly. He’s solid in coverage, he tracks ball carriers well, and he diagnoses plays quickly and efficiently. Previous Pick: Chance Warmack.

    24. Indianapolis Colts (8-4) Dion Jordan, LB, Oregon (6’6” 245lbs). Jordan is a good pass rusher, but the qualities he brings as a 3-4 OLB are that he sets the edge very well, sheds blockers, makes plays in the backfield, and he drops into coverage very well for a guy his size. He is pretty underrated as an athlete. Chuck Pagano is going to continue to build out his 3-4 defense and there is a good possibility that Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis won’t be with the team next year because they really aren’t great fits for the 3-4 scheme. Previous Pick: Kawann Short.

    25. Chicago Bears (8-4) Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan (6’8” 310lbs).
    The Bears have to fix their OL. They benched Gabe Carimi, they lost Lance Louis for the year, they cut Chris Williams, and J’Marcus Webb is average at best. Jay Cutler is a solid QB, but they have to protect him more and they really need to open up better holes for Matt Forte considering the money they’ve invested into the RB position. Fisher could easily be an upgrade over J’Marcus Webb and considering Cutler’s injury issues they really need to give him as much protection as possible. Previous Pick: CJ Mosley.

    26. Green Bay Packers (8-4) CJ Mosley, LB, Alabama (6’2” 236lbs).
    Mosley could be an OLB or an ILB. I think he’d be a good fit at ILB for the Packers. Desmond Bishop is ok, but AJ Hawk is seriously overrated. The Packers could definitely benefit from upgrading over Hawk. Mosley is very athletic and would be able to stay out on the field in coverage packages because he is very adept as a cover linebacker. Previous Pick: Dallas Thomas.

    27. San Francisco 49ers (8-3-1) David Amerson, CB, NC State (6’3” 195lbs).
    I still think Amerson is one of the top players in this draft. It is just rare to have a cornerback his size that can actually play the position. That said, I do believe that Amerson’s best position in the NFL may be at free safety. He doesn’t have very fluid hips, so he is either going to have to play corner in a defensive scheme that runs a lot of zone, or go to a team that envisions him as a free safety. Even though he doesn’t have the hip swivel, he is rangy with excellent ball-hawk skills. Previous Pick: No Change.
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    28. Baltimore Ravens (9-3) Barrett Jones, OT/G/C, Alabama (6’5” 311lbs).
    This isn’t a flashy pick, but it is a necessary one. The Ravens offensive line really is not very good. Maybe that is by scheme or maybe that is because the talent just isn’t there. Regardless, the LG and C position really need to be addressed. They drafted Gino Gradkowski last year, but who knows if he would be ready to step in and be a starter next year. Jones is a jack-of-all-trades lineman. He is an outstanding run blocker and provides nice balance as a pass blocker. The thing that I think Baltimore would really value in Jones is that every position he played on the offensive line in college he worked hard and excelled at. Previous Pick: CJ Mosley.

    29. New England Patriots (9-3) Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama (6’3” 320lbs).
    The Patriots are going to have to start planning for life after Tom Brady and that is going to include having a nice young OL for whoever the QB is to step up behind. Nate Solder and Sebastian Vollmer look like keepers, but Logan Mankins has contemplated retirement in the past and has been dealing with some nagging injuries. Warmack is an outstanding run blocker and can really anchor down as a pass blocker. Previous Pick: Dallas Thomas.

    30. Denver Broncos (9-3) Kawann Short, DT, Purdue (6’3” 310lbs).
    Short has been an outstanding player for Purdue this season and consistently blows up plays in the backfield. Along with being a run stopper, he provides a solid pass rush as well. The Broncos really need to consider bolstering the interior of their DL because the guys they currently have just aren’t very good. Previous Pick: Jon Jenkins.

    31. Atlanta Falcons (11-1) Jon Cooper, OG, UNC (6’3’ 300lbs).
    Garrett Reynolds is an “ok” guard and it is likely that Peter Konz is going to eventually shift over to center, so at some point they’re going to need to address the guard positions. Cooper is very underrated and has been absolutely dominating the ACC this year. He plays with excellent technique and may be the best pulling guard in this draft. Previous Pick: DeAndre Hopkins.

    32. Houston Texans (11-1) Keenan Allen, WR, Cal (6’2” 215lbs).
    Allen has surprising speed and quickness for a receiver who is nearly 220lbs. He runs nice routes and catches the ball well in traffic. Allen also brings some nice YAC ability. Andre Johnson is getting up there in NFL years and while he is still good, you have to wonder how long he can sustain a high level of play. Furthermore, Houston really needs to get a complimentary receiver opposite of Andre Johnson because Kevin Walter really isn’t that good. Previous Pick: Terrance Williams.
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    Round 2:
    33. Kansas City Chiefs – DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson (6’1” 205lbs). Hopkins has blazing speed on the field and solid hands to boot. The Chiefs are unlikely to bring back Dwayne Bowe and they really need to get Geno Smith someone to grow with.

    34. Jacksonville Jaguars – Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas (6’3” 225lbs). Chad Henne has been really impressive in a few starts this year, but the Jags still should really consider bringing in another QB to groom behind him because Gabbert is a lost cause. Wilson has a nice arm with upside. Injuries are a concern.

    35. Philadelphia Eagles – Dallas Thomas, OG/T, Tennesse (6’5” 315lbs). The Eagles just need to really buckle down and upgrade their offensive line. Thomas is an outstanding pass-blocker and can play guard or tackle.

    36. Cincinnati Bengals (From Oakland) – Kevin Minter, LB, LSU (6’2” 241lbs). Rey Maualuga is a good player, but he freelances far too much and he isn’t very good in coverage. Minter can play inside or outside, is a hard hitter, and brings a leadership element that Maualuga could never have.

    37. Carolina Panthers – Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin (6’6” 325lbs). The Panthers really liked Jeff Otah at right tackle, but the guy just could not stay healthy. They’ve had some issues on the OL and getting a road grader like Wagner could really improve their ground game and pass-protection.

    38. Cleveland Browns USED FOR JOSH GORDON IN 2012 SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT.

    39. Tennessee Titans – Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State (6’1” 190lbs). Poyer has been pretty underrated as a player. He jams receivers at the line of scrimmage well and has decent ball skills. Tennessee might be interested in looking for replacements from Cortland Finnegan.

    40. Arizona Cardinals – Tyler Eiffert, TE, Notre Dame (6’6” 251lbs). If Tyler Wilson drops, he may be the pick. Still, the Cards may not be in a position to take a QB right now, so they might as well continue to try and develop better weapons for whoever their QB is going to be. There are some decent value QB picks in rounds 3-5 that they could target. Eiffert is a long tight end with solid speed and receiving skills. The Cards have been looking for an impact tight end for a few years now.

    41. Detroit Lions – Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers (6’ 195lbs). The Lions need to seriously overhaul their entire secondary. Louis Delmas is really their best player and frankly, this would be a great draft to double-dip at cornerback. Ryan is a solid all-around cornerback who isn’t afraid to come up and make plays on the ball carrier and he’ll play the physical game with any receiver.

    42. San Diego Chargers – DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama (6’6” 335lbs). The Chargers’ offensive line has some serious issues. They invested in Jared Gaither, who is always hurt, and Jeromy Clary just gets destroyed in pass-protection. Truthfully, I’m surprised that Phillip Rivers hasn’t gotten seriously hurt. Fluker needs some coaching on technique, but he’s a massive road grader with long arms and upside.

    43. Miami Dolphins – Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee (6’4” 205lbs). Hunter has nice speed and leaping ability. He does a nice job catching the ball with his hands away from his body and he has nice body control. He’s not an overly capable route runner, but that is something that can be coached. The Dolphins really need to get a receiver who can be a true #1 because Brian Hartline and Davone Bess are not.

    44. Buffalo Bills – Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virgina (5’11” 195lbs). Bailey runs great routes and is a natural pass catcher. Like Tavon Austin, he also brings some nice vertical speed to the position, but he doesn’t have that elite speed and quickness. Buffalo has a lot of receivers, but outside of Stevie Johnson, none of them are really good.

    45. New York Jets – Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma (6’4” 218lbs). Jones’ stock has dropped a lot, but I still think teams could target him at the top of the 2nd round. He has a ton of experience on the biggest stages and has led some really nice comeback wins for Oklahoma. He’s an efficient passer with an above average arm. The Jets really need to move on from Mark Sanchez.

    46. New Orleans Saints FORFEITED.

    47. St. Louis Rams – Mario Benavides, C, Louisville (6’4” 300lbs). Benavides is without a doubt one of the top interior offensive linemen in this draft. He just doesn’t get much press because he plays at Louisville and not a massive program like Ohio State. I think that Jeff Fisher will continue to try and bolster the offensive line. He has to protect Sam Bradford and open holes for Steven Jackson.

    48. Minnesota Vikings – Terrence Williams, WR, Baylor (6’3” 206lbs). Williams is a nice down-field receiver with solid hands and decent route running ability. The Vikings have a play maker in Percy Harvin, but they really need to get Christian Ponder another receiver who can consistently get open and make plays because Harvin can’t do it all himself.

    49. Dallas Cowboys – Travis Long, LB, Washington State (6’3” 257lbs). Anthony Spencer is likely heading to free agency and at the moment, the Cowboys don’t really have anyone behind him who can be an impact player. Travis Long is really underrated and has registered 13 tackles for loss and 10 sacks this year for the Cougars.

    50. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Eric Reid, FS/SS, LSU (6’2” 212lbs). Reid is a rangy safety with average ball skills. However, he has nice athleticism and is solid against the run, so there is reason to believe that he can be coached up a bit more in coverage schemes. Right now the Bucs are playing a 52 year old Rhonde Barber at safety because they don’t have any better options. Reid would be a nice compliment to Mark Barron.
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    51. Washington Redskins – Carrington Byndom, CB, Texas (6’ 185lbs). DeAngelo Hall is not very good anymore. If he put as much effort into covering receivers as he did running his yap, he’d probably still be a decent player. Byndom has elite speed and quickness at corner and would allow the skins to drop Josh Wilson down in nickel packages.

    52. Cincinnati Bengals – Giovani Bernard, RB, UNC (5’10” 207lbs). This is a pretty weak running back class, but Bernard has been really impressive this year for the Tar Heels. He runs with nice vision, catches the ball well out of the backfield, and has that extra gear that allows him to accelerate away from defensive players. As good as Benjavaris Green-Ellis has been for the Bengals, having two capable backs is a must in today’s NFL.

    53. Seattle Seahawks – Shane Skov, LB, Stanford (6’3” 250lbs). Skov suffered a pretty nasty ACL injury in 2011 and that slowed him down a bit early on in the year. However, he’s really gotten better as the year went on and his intangibles are a big reason for that. Pete Carroll was really hoping Bruce Irvin would be able to be an every down LB in their 4-3 instead of a just a pass rush specialist, but I just don’t see it. I think getting a guy who can play MLB should be a high priority for them so they can move KJ Wright back outside where he’s best suited.

    54. Pittsburgh Steelers – Kenny Vaccaro, FS/SS, Texas (6’1” 210lbs). Troy Polamalu and Ryan Clark are still good players, but both have some durability concerns and when one or the other is out, it is noticeable on the field. Considering their age, it might be a good time for Pittsburgh to invest in a young safety that can develop into a starter. Vaccaro is excellent against the run and has some nice upside as a deep cover safety.

    55. New York Giants – Kyle Long, OT, Oregon (6’7” 313lbs). Long can play guard or tackle. The Giants keep shuffling guys around whenever someone gets injured and guys like William Beatty get injured often. Long will provide nice depth and could likely be a starter after a year or two.

    56. Miami Dolphins (From Indianapolis/Vontae Davis) – Joseph Fauria, TE, UCLA (6’7” 255lbs). Fauria is a good blocker and a good receiver. His height alone makes him a major mismatch all over the field and he has surprising quickness as well. Anthony Fasano is a solid blocking TE, but he doesn’t create many mismatches as a receiver.

    57. Chicago Bears – Kevin Reddick, LB, UNC (6’2” 244lbs). Brian Urlacher may not be back with the Bears and even if he does come back, he’s pretty old. Eventually they are going to have to find someone to groom behind him. Reddick got off to a rough start, but he’s athletic and has some nice upside.

    58. Green Bay Packers – David Yankey, OT, Stanford (6’5” 303lbs). Yankey has been a pretty underrated left tackle this year. He’s a solid pass blocker and he isn’t afraid to mix it up in the ground game. The Packers have had some issues at LT with Marshall Newhouse, so they may be interested in trying to get an upgrade.

    59. San Francisco 49er’s – Margus Hunt, DE, SMU (6’8” 290lbs). Hunt is a very raw prospect, but it is hard to ignore his measurables and athleticism. For his size, he gets nice burst off the line of scrimmage and he can bull rush with the best of them. He’d be a great rotational guy for the Niners and would be a nice player to groom behind Justin Smith.

    60. Baltimore Ravens – Gerald Hodges, LB, Penn State (6’2” 235lbs). Hodges is a very athletic linebacker with nice instincts and good fundamentals. He tackles well and he plays well in space. The Ravens have some serious issues at inside linebacker. No one can cover anything and they miss far too many tackles. Hodges may take a bit to develop as a 3-4 ILB, but if Navorro Bowman can do it, so can Hodges.

    61. New England Patriots – Stevenson Sylvester, DT, UNC (6’3” 320lbs). Vince Wilfork isn’t getting any younger and Belichick loves guys who can play in multiple defensive fronts. Sylvester is a solid run defender who can provide some push up the middle.

    62. Denver Broncos – Robert Woods, WR, USC (6’1” 185lbs). Woods was kind of up and down this year, but he still has some value and I think a team like Denver would love to give Peyton Manning another weapon in the passing game. Woods has nice speed and quickness, but his biggest asset is his ability to run routes. He’d be an outstanding slot receiver.

    63. Atlanta Falcons – Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State (6’1” 230lbs). If Brown were 10lbs heavier and 2 inches taller, he’d probably be a top 25 pick. He has excellent instincts, nice range, and for his size he really packs a punch. Atlanta could stand to boost their front 7 and give Sean Weatherspoon a nice compliment opposite of him.

    64. Houston Texans – Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington (6’1” 193lbs). Trufant is a really solid cornerback, but he doesn’t really “wow” you with off the charts numbers. Part of the problem is because a lot of teams don’t throw at him. Houston has some issues with depth and recently had to sign Stanford Routt off the streets.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Round 3:
    65. Kansas City Chiefs – Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama (6’4” 320lbs). Williams had kind of an up and down year, but the Chiefs could still use some better 3-4 components than Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson.

    66. Jacksonville Jaguars – Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas (6’3” 209lbs). Hamilton is a solid possession receiver with good hands and route running ability. The Jags scored big time with Justin Blackmon, but getting one more receiver to line up opposite of Blackmon would be optimal.

    67. Philadelphia Eagles – Tony Jefferson, SS, Oklahoma (5’11” 212lbs). Jefferson is a hard-hitting safety with above average speed and athleticism. He’ll probably never be an elite player, but he definitely has some nice upside. Philadelphia really needs to think about upgrading over Kurt Coleman, who sucks against the run.

    68. Oakland Raiders – Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia (6’1” 211lbs). I’m not sure if the Raiders feel that they can win with Terrelle Pryor, Matt Leinart, or Carson Palmer. What I do know is that Aaron Murray is pretty damn good and getting a guy with his accuracy and intelligence in the 3rd round is pretty good value. Might be something better to build off of than Pryor.

    69. San Francisco 49ers [from Carolina] – Chase Thomas, LB, Stanford (6’4” 245lbs). I definitely think that if given the opportunity, Jim Harbaugh would be interested in one of the guys he recruited. You can never have too many pass rushers and Thomas can play inside or outside in the 3-4.

    70. Cleveland Browns – Matt Elam, FS, Florida (5’10” 206lbs). Elam kind of came out of nowhere this year to become one of the top rated free safeties. He has just made big play after big play for the Gators. Cleveland could probably benefit from upgrading over Usama Young at FS.

    71. Tennessee Titans – Cyril Richardson, OG/T, Baylor (6’5” 335lbs). The best position for Richardson is probably at guard in the NFL, which would work out for the Titans. They have had some serious issues running the ball and a big part of that has been their interior offensive line.

    72. Arizona Cardinals – EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State (6’4” 240lbs). Manuel showed a lot of improvement this year with the Seminoles and led them to a great season. He has a big arm and has the ability to pick up yards with his feet. He needs some coaching on technique, but at this point he would be a better player to build around over John Skelton or Kevin Kolb, who can never stay healthy.

    73. Detroit Lions – Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers (6’1” 231lbs). Greene is all over the place for the Scarlet Knights. Some think he could possibly even go in the high second round. I think he’ll drop a little because of his size, but he is a very good player and Detroit could use more athletic linebackers.

    74. San Diego Chargers – Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee (6’3” 202lbs). Patterson is a fairly underrated receiver. He’s got legitimate deep speed and can make a lot of people miss in the open field. He needs some polishing, but the Chargers need to get Phillip Rivers better weapons to pair with Danario Alexander.

    75. Miami Dolphins – Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky (6’3” 340lbs). Richie Incognito sucks and John Jerry is taking a lot longer to develop than they had originally thought. Warford is a massive guard who excels as a run blocker. He needs some coaching on footwork, but he is not easy to move.

    76. Buffalo Bills – Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia (6’6” 310lbs). Aboushi is talented, but very raw. It is possible that the Bills may want to slide Cordy Glenn down to guard or maybe even move him over to RT.

    77. New York Jets - Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford (5’11” 209lbs). Taylor is a workhorse back with good burst and vision. He also provides solid receiving skills out of the backfield. The Jets can’t rely on Shonn Greene to be their feature back. He’s just not that good.

    78. New Orleans Saints – Shariff Floyd, DT, Florida (6’3” 302lbs). Floyd has very quick feet and hands for a big guy. That quickness allows him to get nice penetration into the backfield. The Saints have been looking for an answer to the DT position for a few years now. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if they double-dipped at the position in this draft.

    79. St. Louis Rams – Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin (5’11” 220lbs). Had Ball come out last year he may have been a first round pick. He started off the season looking pretty pedestrian, but the last couple of months he seemed to look like his former self. The Rams may want to consider getting another workhorse back because Steven Jackson is getting up there in RB years and Isaiah Pead is more of a change-of-pace back.

    80. Minnesota Vikings – Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech (6’ 195lbs). Fuller has been an outstanding cornerback for the Hokies this year. He jams at the line of scrimmage very well, he tackles well, and he has nice fluidity in his hips. The Vikings could stand to get some better talent in their secondary.

    81. Dallas Cowboys – Mike Glennon, QB, NC State (6’6” 232lbs). Glennon has a big arm and solid accuracy. He can get a little erratic at times, but he has some nice upside. Tony Romo can just demolish some defenses and then go on a 3 week bender of choking. Dallas should probably consider grooming a guy behind Romo who could actually become a franchise QB.

    82. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Will Sutton, DE, Arizona State (6’2” 275lbs). Sutton has quietly been an explosive defensive player in the Pac12 this year. He gets after the QB really well and plays the run well. He doesn’t have elite speed or quickness, so some may look at him as a tweener DE/DT, but I think he could be a guy who really excels at LE.

    83. Washington Redskins – Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn (6’4” 246lbs). Lemonier is a nice pass rusher, but definitely is going to have to go to a 3-4 team looking for a rush OLB. Once the Redskins lost Brian Orakpo, their depth at OLB was really exposed.

    84. Cincinnati Bengals – TJ McDonald, FS, USC (6’2” 205lbs). Reggie Nelson is serviceable at FS, but the Taylor Mays experiment may have been over before it started. He’s a penalty machine and he can’t cover. McDonald is a long and rangy safety with nice coverage skills.

    85. Seattle Seahawks – William Gholston, DE, Michigan State (6’6” 278lbs). Gholston is a very talented player, but he has not really taken that “next step” to realizing how good he can be. Still, I think the 3rd round would be a good spot for him and the Seahawks could use a developmental DE behind Chris Clemons.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    86. Pittsburgh Steelers – Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M (6’1” 207lbs). Swope is an outstanding route runner with soft hands and deceptive speed. He has excelled on the big stage and was a huge part of the Aggie’s success this year. The Steelers likely won’t be able to keep Mike Wallace and they really need a complimentary receiver to Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders.

    87. New York Giants – Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State (6’3” 265lbs). You can never have too many pass rushers. There is a good chance that Osi Umenyiora may not be back with the Giants next year, so they may want to look for a rotational guy. Carradine was considered a potential round 1 prospect until he got hurt.

    88. Indianapolis Colts – Bennie Logan, DT, LSU (6’3” 288lbs). Logan may be a bit undersized for Chuck Pagano’s 3-4, but when Pagano was with the Ravens they drafted Pernell McPhee, who was also a bit undersized and ended up being a really nice pass rushing compliment. Logan is a really great 5-technique prospect who could end up sneaking into the 2nd round.

    89. Miami Dolphins [from Chicago/Brandon Marshall] – Micah Hyde, CB, Iowa (6’1” 191lbs). Hyde is a solid cornerback with some nice upside. He doesn’t have elite speed, but he does well in zone coverage. The Dolphins really need to rebuild the depth at cornerback after trading away Vontae Davis.

    90. Green Bay Packers – Baccari Rambo, SS, Georgia (6’ 218lbs). Rambo has had some off-field issues, but on the field he is a dynamic safety who can really lay some lumber. He needs some refinement in coverage, but in Green Bay he should be able to become an upgrade over guys like Charlie Peprah.

    91. San Francisco 49ers – Phillip Thomas, FS/SS, Fresno State (6’2” 215lbs). Thomas is a big time hitter with nice range, speed, and coverage ability. He doesn’t have elite ball skills, but he makes up for that with constantly being around the ball. Dashon Goldson might be too expensive for the Niners to bring back and this could allow them to move Donte Whitner over to FS.

    92. Baltimore Ravens – Sean Porter, LB, Texas A&M (6’2” 237lbs). Porter is kind of a jack-of-all-trades linebacker. He played 3-4 OLB for the Aggies last year and racked up over 17 tackles for loss and nearly 10 sacks. This year he dropped back to 4-3 LB and has still done well, but doesn’t have the numbers that he did last year. I think the Ravens should double dip like they did with Ed Dickson and Dennis Pitta because they are really hurting at linebacker right now.

    93. New England Patriots – Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt (6’3” 211lbs). Matthews is a really nice possession receiver prospect. He has solid height and decent speed. Even though Vandy’s offense is pretty average, Matthews has over 1200 yards receiving. The Patriots can get away with having sub-par receivers, but Welker may not be back next year and Brandon Lloyd was only on a 1-year deal.

    94. Denver Broncos – Jordan Reed, TE, Florida (6’3” 240lbs). Reed is similar to another former Gator, Aaron Hernandez. Reed doesn’t bring much to the table as a blocker, but he is an excellent receiving threat and would just give Peyton one more weapon to try and get the Broncos over the hump.

    95. Atlanta Falcons – Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina (6’ 220lbs). This would be a good spot to take a flier on Lattimore. Prior to getting hurt, Lattimore was easily the top rated RB in this draft class. Atlanta gets the opportunity to rehab Lattimore the right way and groom him behind Michael Turner.

    96. Houston Texans – Shawn Williams, FS/SS, Georgia (6’1” 215lbs). Williams is a pretty balanced player at safety. He plays the run well and he doesn’t give up big plays in the passing game, but he won’t net you a ton of interceptions either. The Texans will likely need to address safety if they can’t resign Glover Quinn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Just realized that my questions could have been interpreted as rhetorical or negative...sorry about that.
    Which game?
    I was watching TTU and Miami. I saw a few good plays but from play-to-play, I expected to see more.
    I'm dying to find us a solid ILB so I want to run Brown to ground.
    He plays for Kansas state. Or do you mean before he transferred?




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Going on everything I've read and what I've seen of Bama this year, I'd be surprised if Jones goes over Warmack. Certainly thought Jones got handled in the SEC Champ game.




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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef View Post
    Going on everything I've read and what I've seen of Bama this year, I'd be surprised if Jones goes over Warmack. Certainly thought Jones got handled in the SEC Champ game.
    I think he is a better prospect than Zeitler or Konz were last year, but you could be right that they would target Warmack over Jones.

    I was considering the utility of Jones vs Warmack, which is why I could see Ozzie and DeCosta valuing Jones over Warmack. Jones can play every position on the OL.
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    Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

    I would rather double up on the Oline than LB. If Aboushi is on the board with our second round pick, I'm taking him with our second round pick. I think he could play LT, RT, or OG. I like the Jones pick Wicked, if we take the franchise OC (who can also cover guard at a good level), then get a guy who has potential to protect Joe's blind side, or compete for the RT position, that would put our Oline in a good place.

    Aboushi-KO-Jones-Yanda-Oher

    Or

    Oher-KO-Jones-Yanda-Aboushi

    Or even

    KO-Oher-Jones-Yanda-Aboushi

    I would take a LB like Porter in the 3rd, and bring in a good value LB on the market.




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