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  1. #16

    Re: Two strakght losses by defense



    There is only so much Pees can do with our ILBs. Watch London Fletcher cover Pitta on our seam route. Then watch Jameel or BA or Bynes flailing to cover the middle for more than 5 yards. At some point you cannot give every player on the field "help" in covering their area/man.

    That said, Pees has issues for sure, especially in terms of blitzing/stunting and being creative to get pressure (vs. vanilla, weak, rushes).




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    Look at all of the injuries. We had Chris Johnson at CB on that last drive. It is what it is
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  3. #18

    Re: Two strakght losses by defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Haloti92 View Post
    There is only so much Pees can do with our ILBs. Watch London Fletcher cover Pitta on our seam route. Then watch Jameel or BA or Bynes flailing to cover the middle for more than 5 yards. At some point you cannot give every player on the field "help" in covering their area/man.

    That said, Pees has issues for sure, especially in terms of blitzing/stunting and being creative to get pressure (vs. vanilla, weak, rushes).
    A coach's job is more than just showing up and calling the plays on game day. When your LBs fail to get depth in their zones for 13 straight games, you have to question why they are not being coached to do so. Clearly these guys have the physical ability to do so if London Fletcher can!

    I do fault the assistant coaches as much or more than Pees for this team's failure to address any of its defensive issues throughout the season.




  4. #19

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    Offense is much healthier than the defense. (though Yanda's injury is a concern)

    The offense should be carrying the defense, instead of expecting such a worn down defense to continue to do it.




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    Re: Two straight losses by defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Look at all of the injuries. We had Chris Johnson at CB on that last drive. It is what it is

    Yup. This D had issues when it was healthy. It is painful to watch now.
    "Screw it, let's ride"!




  6. #21

    Re: Two straight losses by defense

    With the injuries that the defense has faced and the lack of quality back ups, you want to pin all the blame on them? I think they did a hell of a job considering the situation. Take away flaccos fumble and Int, We win this game.




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    Re: Two strakght losses by defense

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    A coach's job is more than just showing up and calling the plays on game day. When your LBs fail to get depth in their zones for 13 straight games, you have to question why they are not being coached to do so. Clearly these guys have the physical ability to do so if London Fletcher can!

    I do fault the assistant coaches as much or more than Pees for this team's failure to address any of its defensive issues throughout the season.
    I agree.... McClain has no clue with the concept of depth.

    F--- it. I'd run a 4-2-5 as a base next week b/c our LBs can't cover. Put in Ihedigbo. If they gash us with the run, screw it. I'd rather take my chances with the run over Manning/s dicing us up.




  8. #23

    Re: Two strakght losses by defense

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    A coach's job is more than just showing up and calling the plays on game day. When your LBs fail to get depth in their zones for 13 straight games, you have to question why they are not being coached to do so. Clearly these guys have the physical ability to do so if London Fletcher can!

    I do fault the assistant coaches as much or more than Pees for this team's failure to address any of its defensive issues throughout the season.
    I absolutely question why they are not successfully being coached to get depth. But that isn't the same thing as not being coached to get depth. They may be too dumb to fully learn without more reps (too many reps). They still cannot read the play fast enough to realize when they are responsible for covering (vs. playing the run).

    I also am not sure, ever, whether Ed is where he is supposed to be according to the plan. I am quite sure Ed has, or at minimum considers himself to have, a green light in terms of freelancing. So on some of the plays, he may be too deep, I have no idea.

    But I agree with your overall point. One way or another something has to change before you allow yourself to continue to get gashed in week 14 by the same plays you were getting gashed with in week 2.




  9. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainServer52 View Post
    Dean Piss has to go...I know there were some people who were fooled when we had a stretch of games when we played good defense against some very weak offenses, but his bend don't break, 2 and 3 man rushes and soft zone defense is killing us in crucial moments of the game.
    At some point people are going to realize just how poor the talent is on the defensive side of the ball.

    Until then, people will continue to blame coaching.

    In fact, that goes for the entire team.

    PP




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    Re: Two straight losses by defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensghost View Post
    With the injuries that the defense has faced and the lack of quality back ups, you want to pin all the blame on them? I think they did a hell of a job considering the situation. Take away flaccos fumble and Int, We win this game.
    and in today's game at least, those were on the Oline
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  11. #26

    Re: Two strakght losses by defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Haloti92 View Post
    I absolutely question why they are not successfully being coached to get depth. But that isn't the same thing as not being coached to get depth. They may be too dumb to fully learn without more reps (too many reps). They still cannot read the play fast enough to realize when they are responsible for covering (vs. playing the run).

    I also am not sure, ever, whether Ed is where he is supposed to be according to the plan. I am quite sure Ed has, or at minimum considers himself to have, a green light in terms of freelancing. So on some of the plays, he may be too deep, I have no idea.

    But I agree with your overall point. One way or another something has to change before you allow yourself to continue to get gashed in week 14 by the same plays you were getting gashed with in week 2.
    Yeah, you're absolutely right. We can't really judge precisely where the failure is occurring whether it's the quality of the coaching itself or the players' reception of said coaching.

    I do think that the FEW defenders still remaining from last year's team looked much better under Pagano, including McClain, Williams, Pollard, and Reed. Reed in particular is now blowing 5 or 10 coverages for every play he makes, which is WAY unacceptable. Don't know if he can freelance anymore.




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    Re: Two strakght losses by defense

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Charlie Batch and Kirk Cousins.
    Offenses can be schemed to be successful. On defense you need talent. And I am paraphrasing the great Bill Walsh.




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    Re: Two straight losses by defense

    Quote Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74 View Post
    Offense is much healthier than the defense. (though Yanda's injury is a concern)

    The offense should be carrying the defense, instead of expecting such a worn down defense to continue to do it.
    yup everyone came into the season knowing that the O will carry the team, that is not the case this year




  14. #29

    Re: Two strakght losses by defense

    The last two games is mostly on the offense, This defense has been up and mostly down all year. I've come to expect that our defense will probably regress further. It's on the offense now and for the rest of the season. Our margin of error is very minimal and unfortunately penalties and turnovers will only compound the problem. We saw that today..




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    We need Ray Lewis.




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