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    Re: Next years Oline



    I'm still watching video on these guys except for Fischer (not sure any exist in the public domain).
    I figure our WCS draft range is 24-26, so hypothetically, Fischer could be available. His skill set is excellent from what I've read, and I always ignore any "small school" talk from the media monkeys.

    As far as Yanda at C is concerned, if it strengthens the unit and gives us a 3-man wall somewhere then I am all for it. I did not realize that he was making calls this season...that's very encouraging. When we have the ball, I almost always watch the secondary coverage and LBs pre-snap.

    Jah has played okay in both PIT games, barely passing (but positive) vs. OAK, and poorly @ SD. Putting him between Yanda and an LT that should be much better than Oher seems like a good move. We can only hope that he improves as he experiences more live football...he's very much a rookie in that regard.

    KO looks like he might be coming around. His negative plays @ SD are memorable, but he had far more unmemorable positive plays that game. Also, if his awful vs. CLE and awful @KC grades were only half a bad, he'd be a top 30 OT instead of the #41 graded overall. With Ryan Kerrigan, Miller, Tuck and Dunlap coming up, we're going to find out exactly where he is. If he swims then you gotta keep him at RT. If he sinks then yup, kick him inside where many of us think he'll eventually excel.

    Gino is a wild card that I don't even care to gnash my teeth over right now.

    Harewood is also a wild card. His pass pro was awful, but his run blocking is not all that bad (only slight behind CIN's Zeitler who is having a great rookie year overall). Harewood just hasn't played enough football...and despite his intelligence, the guy was lost on pass pro responsibilities. Maybe it will click from him this summer.

    There's a not all that unlikely scenario in which Oher--unless he gets kicked inside--is a valuable back-up swing man. On a positive, that's a huge cost avoidance for 2014, and if we can do that as well as establish a better unit then great. Kicking him inside at another position yet again sucks, I know, but it's only an outcome to be considered b/c of the poor job we've done addressing the OL over the last 3 years. The 2009 (mostly) RT Oher was very good--a top 20 player--what a shame to have mishandled the OT position on the heels of that kind of production.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Aboushi is definitely an interesting Day-2 prospect.
    I think his ability to play LT is going to raise his draft stock and he'll probably be early day 2, but I would not consider him a 1st rounder, too raw.

    Barrett Jones is an absolute beauty and I would love to have him. With the state of our OL guys who can play multiple positions (i.e Yanda and KO) are wonderful.

    However, I hope the defence is addressed early and we wait till the second to look into the OL, but we all know FO takes best guy available which is fine with me as well




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenalytics View Post
    All I want for Christmas is Barrett Jones.

    Naked. With a bow.
    I plan to watch Bama/UGA again over the holidays, but I recall Jones getting OG help quite a bit vs. Jenkins (UGA DT). Am I wrong on that?

    If not and if Jones is slotted at C, I would much better prefer a guy who can handle his business solo. Having said that, the UGA game may have been the exception b/c Bama knew that with Jenkins wiped out they could run all day...which of course they did. I admittedly need to watch a lot of video over the holidays.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    I don't think that you move your best offensive linemen to another position. That just seems dumb to me. I would think that they would go with Gradkowski at center next year. Also, I think KO will stay at RT. The biggest issue imo will be figuring out LT. I don't think Oher is the answer there.
    If the coaches think that resultant flexibility of Yanda at C makes a better unit (like gives us a better G-C-G) then they'll do it.




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    Re: Next years Oline

    Don't be shocked if one out of Joekel or Lewan slides into the late 1st round. Seems to happen quite often in drafts. That's how we got Oher after all...well, wait...nevermind. I don't want that.




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    My "little voice" is telling me we'll go D in rounds 1 and 2: LB and DL. We ought to be able to pick up serviceable interior OL help with some of our compensatory picks. Yes, I am very unhappy about the way we have starved the LB and DL positions.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    Don't be shocked if one out of Joekel or Lewan slides into the late 1st round. Seems to happen quite often in drafts. That's how we got Oher after all...well, wait...nevermind. I don't want that.

    The Joker. For as strong and as steady as he is, I've never seen an OT play so smoothly. He's actually fun to watch. Yup...fun.
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    I can see Lewan sliding, but not Joekel, he is just too talented to slide IMO. I guess anything is possible in the draft though. This years draft is going to be defensive big time though, not much offensive talent in terms of skill players.




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    Unless the Ravens lose out, they'll be picking in the late twenties (hopefully at 32...). At that point their best bet is to go after a guard because Joeckel, Lewan, and Matthews will be long gone.

    Better fix: get an offensive system that gets receivers open. That will get the ball out quicker, which will cause the linemen to not have to maintain their blocks for more than a couple of seconds for most plays.

    Then, in the draft - defense, defense, defense.

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    Re: Next years Oline

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    There's a not all that unlikely scenario in which Oher--unless he gets kicked inside--is a valuable back-up swing man. On a positive, that's a huge cost avoidance for 2014, and if we can do that as well as establish a better unit then great. Kicking him inside at another position yet again sucks, I know, but it's only an outcome to be considered b/c of the poor job we've done addressing the OL over the last 3 years. The 2009 (mostly) RT Oher was very good--a top 20 player--what a shame to have mishandled the OT position on the heels of that kind of production.
    I agree! Whomever made all those calls should be punched in the face. Oher's rookie season looked like he was headed for all pro RT. Hell even if he regressed a little it was still an above average RT. Than they bounce him around and he's garbage. Really I'd rather just cut bait but it's whatever.

    Really though, unless they address and get rid of the drunk you could put together the All Madden squad at the OL and he'd find a way to screw it up. I don't think I've hated anyone as much since PA and the Orioles. Hopefully they can both die in a fiery drunk driving accident.




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    Re: Next years Oline

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenalytics View Post
    All I want for Christmas is Barrett Jones..
    Article on Jones in today's local paper where he went to high school: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...rmer-ecs-star/

    He is projected low 20s so he may slip and still be there when the Ravens pick at 32
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    Re: Next years Oline

    Oher back at RT. Yanda at RG. Gradkowski at C. Osemele at LG and

    Ryan Clady at LT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Ryan Clady at LT.
    I wish


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    Re: Next years Oline

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Oher back at RT. Yanda at RG. Gradkowski at C. Osemele at LG and

    Ryan Clady at LT.
    Even though he's a great player, dude he turned down a 5 year 50 million contract, that's 10 mill every year! I don't see a way of extending Flacco AND signing a guy like Clady without cutting half the team lol.

    There are some other interesting options like Jerome Bushrod who's done a good job protecting Drew Brees for the last few years. He won't be as expensive, but probably still quite pricey because he's been above average, and teams will be all over him, this of course is assuming NO don't resign him.




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    Re: Next years Oline

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Oher back at RT. Yanda at RG. Gradkowski at C. Osemele at LG and

    Ryan Clady at LT.
    I would love Clady. He'd be ideal.

    He is going to be SUPER expensive though. I can't see him not sticking with Denver.
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