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12-06-2012, 02:45 PM #1Regular 1st Stringer
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OT-- oh Goddell, really?
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12-06-2012, 02:46 PM #2Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: OT-- oh Goddell, really?
Lets just put the flag belts on.
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Re: OT-- oh Goddell, really?
Pretty much everything Goddell proposes is garbage. The scary thing is, Once he says it publically, it's automatically written in stone. That's how he works.
Moving the kickoffs up 10 yards
Locking out the real refs
Sending games to Europe
Fining and suspending players without warning
Now this.
Watch.
Yuck.
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12-06-2012, 03:07 PM #4
Re: OT-- oh Goddell, really?
What a terrible idea.
4 and 15 isn't nearly intimidating enough. Watch Belicheat send his offense out and just look for a flag on Gronkowski or something. And with illegal contact giving an automatic first down regardless of where on the field it happens, why not try?
Again, terrible idea.My Ravens Blog: Brittany Rants About Football
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12-06-2012, 08:37 PM #5Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: OT-- oh Goddell, really?
I heard Rich McKay push to get rid of kickoffs last year. It was John Mara the owner of the Giants pushing to keep them. Mara said he needed firm concussion data to change his mind. I wonder if this means the NFL gave it to him.
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12-06-2012, 03:25 PM #8Hyperbolic curmudgeometer
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Re: OT-- oh Goddell, really?
It's not that crazy an idea if you think about it. And it doesn't really do all that much violence ;) to the game.
You replace the onside kick with going for it on 4th and 15 (or 20--I think you could argue about the distance). Both exciting plays with similar chances for success, but you don't have players on the return team getting hit by coverage players with a full head of steam.
You replace (most of) the touchbacks with kicks out of bounds, which are easier to accomplish but risk giving the opponent excellent field position--but if that doesn't faze you, you can accomplish the same thing with a squib kick right now.
In all other respects, the kickoff return is replaced by a punt return. Not as exciting for two reasons: the possibility of a high punt forcing a fair catch, and the decreased probability that a single block or a small seam can lead to 6. In return for that you get a reduction in closing speed for coverage & return teams which leads to less violent collisions.
On the whole, the game would lose something--the question is how much it would gain in player safety? I'd have to see the figures for concussions & other injuries for kickoff returns vs punt returns.
But let's face it, this idea would beat the living crap out just handing the other team the ball at their 30, wouldn't it?
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12-06-2012, 03:20 PM #9Legendary RSR Poster
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Can you blame him?
With the constant stream of ex players suing the league over a sport they knew was dangerous to begin with, it's hard to pin the blame on the Commish alone.
Anyone else in the same situation would have to consider such measures.Last edited by HoustonRaven; 12-06-2012 at 03:26 PM.
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12-06-2012, 03:32 PM #10Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: OT-- oh Goddell, really?
I'm not sure I would prefer this solution, but I actually don't think it's a horrible idea for a couple reasons.
- Since they've moved the kickoffs up, 43.5% of kickoffs end in touchbacks. It's become boring and I usually find myself heading to fridge instead of sitting through Commercial-TB-Commercial.
- Onside kicks. They're one of the most exciting plays in the game, but they're predicated almost entirely on luck and the ball bouncing your way. I think having your offense on the field to determine whether you can get an extra possession makes a lot more sense than a ball bounce.
- Chance for a bad snap/blocked punt adds a little excitement. Since you're not kicking from a tee, there's a chance that a punter could mishandle the snap and give the other team a good starting point for their drive.
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12-06-2012, 03:51 PM #11Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: OT-- oh Goddell, really?
Understandable, but I think the lawsuit against NFL is much deeper than the fact that the sport is dangerous. I think it goes along the line that the league is aware of the danger for so long and the league actively concealed that danger. I think that is basically the gist of the lawsuit.
Regardless, it shouldn't be a knee jerk reaction to "pussify" the league in the process. The league could very well make sure that each player signs a declaimer (if hasn't already done so) before playing.
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12-06-2012, 03:59 PM #12Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: OT-- oh Goddell, really?
I actually thought this was a great idea. Kickoffs right now are boring, and onside kicks are just silly luck draws. Might as well add some cool skill to it.
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