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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?



    And another thing to add on about the Redskins. Usually it's hard to hate teams when they haven't done well for a long period of time. I usually reserve that for the dynasties, and the teams standing in our way. But the arrogance and how they forget the past so easily is what pisses me off. This isn't the first year that they've been bumping their chest claiming that they're going to the win the Super Bowl. They seem to do this almost every year. They even fail to recognize that we've put together a good franchise. They're basically the fan base that wouldn't die.

    When the Orioles put together a losing team for all those years, we always recognized how our team was, and didn't talk trash when our team couldn't back it up. But the Redskins fanbase have always just been that Beagle who tries to the intimidate the Great Dane.

    My heart still tells me that they'll find a way to screw up RGIII.




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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?

    I worked in Bethesda 5 years so I became familiar with the Skins.
    With the Indy Irsays, I no longer followed that team.

    Doug Williams in SB XXII locked me in.
    I disliked Snyder's arrogance every bit as much as I dislike Cam's everybody elses fault.

    That said, I got encouraged for the suffering Skins fans when Mike Shanahan came in with final say powers. I was extremely interested to see if he had another Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson, Gary, Bell.... up his sleeve and it took him 2 full years to unearth Alfred Morris in the 6th round. Rumors have it Shany finds RBs like Oz finds LBs

    Yes RG3 is the buzz, and they did mortgage a lot but this is Shanahan's imprint and Snyder now being a sensible owner and not a Jerry Jones clone-clown. There is a fresh wind going on down there... and I feel good for them, let them win every game, except when they play us, I want them to lose that one.

    I was considering them for SB before Orakpo and Carriker went down.... as well as they are playing with the next man up? Boy, if those next men up were the rotation instead of the starters they would be downright scary.... I know no rookie QB has won SB except for the seasoned rookie Kurt Warner

    So to answer the OP question "Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins? "
    No, Shanahan has returned opinion to Gibbs respect. RG3 helps the team skill but not my opinion
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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?

    Yeah. He helped turn our Week 14 game from a Gimme W to a Question Mark.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    I grew up a Redskins fan because of a bunch of cousins and uncles being fans, but once Snyder took over and tried to be George Steinbrenner of the NFL my fandom fell off, being Orioles fan I wanted Baltimore to get a team, when they did the transition was seamless.

    All that said, since then the Redskins have annoyed me. And not much will change my opinion of them while Snyder owns that team. The fact he pulled a fantasy football move, again, and was actually successful for once doesn't mean they'll be anything great anytime soon, better, sure but not Great.

    As far as RGIII, I like him, a lot. Seems like a great person raised by good parents both serving our country. However, I HATE the media love-fest over him AND the fans RGIII chant over EVERY play. Hell they cheered his name when he fumbled Monday night. Because of the media love-fest and fans belief he's the second coming, I hope they stay in the shitter of the NFC. But I hope RGIII has at least a mildly successful career... as long as the team doesn't benefit too much.
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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?

    That was pretty funny when the dumb Skins fans were chanting RG3! after he fumbled and someone else mopped up a TD for him.. That's when you know your fan base and team have been waiting a long time for a "star" player to come to town.

    As for the Skins.. I say good for them. Those of us that are longsuffering O's fans know how exciting it is to finally have something to cheer for after years of losing. Danny Boy has been funny to laugh at over the years but I've never "hated" him. Cooke was the asshole who went out of his way to deny us a team with the Laurel stadium nonsense and the closed door stuff he had going on with Tags. I'll always hate the Cooke-skins and have always lauged at the Danny-Skins.. But again, good for them for finally finding a hero.. especially after Danny just got finished dismantling half the stadium due to fan apathy during his tenure. Something else to make you chuckle...




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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?

    They're a team on the rise because of RGIII. Good for them. They're very fun to watch, but I'll never, ever root for them, period. There's all the JKC stuff and all that, plus the Mara support for our 1994 expansion bid means I'll never root for the Landover team (I root for the NYFG)

    Some people think DCs proximity means you should root for all the teams in the area. Ask any real Mets fans if they root for the Yankees or vice versa. Are there really that many Raiders fans that root for the 49ers or vice versa?

    Plus, their fans are one step down from Steelers' fans. They love to shove titles in your face, even though they don't have as many and haven't won one in 20 years.
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    I'm so sick of hearing about RG3. The media must think he's the next coming of Christ. If the Steelers played them in the SB, I think I'd root for the Steelers just so everybody would STFU about RG3. He's had a good rookie year (He couldnt beat Pittsburgh so he must not be that great) He is NO Payton Manning or Tom Brady.




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    He's a rare talent and is the real deal. That's rather evident.

    The Pistol Offense is basically what he ran at Baylor and some defenses are having a hard time with it. So kudos to Kyle for tweaking the offense around his strengths.

    So in some ways, yes RG3 has changed some of the ways I view the Skins. They finally have a legit QB so the excitement is understandable. But they gave up a ton to get him. Way too much, IMO. Now they do not have any high draft picks for the next few years to surround him with the support he needs.

    He may very well end up like Vick.
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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?

    Just saw that he's leading the league in jersey sales so Danny is getting what he wanted; a marketers dream. Maybe they'll win some games too but I think he's mostly interested in the $$.

    This year they're getting better and teams are struggling to defend them but look at Cam Newton last year compared to this. It will be interesting to see if this pistol offense can sustain success
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Just saw that he's leading the league in jersey sales so Danny is getting what he wanted; a marketers dream. Maybe they'll win some games too but I think he's mostly interested in the $$.

    This year they're getting better and teams are struggling to defend them but look at Cam Newton last year compared to this. It will be interesting to see if this pistol offense can sustain success
    Agreed. I think RG3 is legit but I want to see what he does next year after teams have a season of tape on him.


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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    I felt like RGIII would really be the difference and he has been. Perfect for that offense and a real likeable person as well. I'm not sure if 'he's changing the NFL' like Gruden kept saying but this year they sure have been fun to watch. They can run so many things out of that pistol formation that it's really a read and react offense

    Last year Cam Newton was all the rage and this year he's bad. It'll be interesting to see how long RGIII can sustain this high level of play.
    PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
    1 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB 279 414 67.4 3,124 7.55 72 29 8 39 105.0 260
    2 Robert Griffin III, QB WSH 218 325 67.1 2,660 8.19 88 17 4 25 104.4 222
    3 Alex Smith, QB SF 152 217 70.0 1,731 7.98 55 13 5 24 104.1 192
    4 Peyton Manning, QB DEN 330 483 68.3 3,812 7.89 71 30 10 19 104.0 293
    5 Tom Brady, QB NE 298 460 64.8 3,537 7.69 83 25 4 19 102.6 295
    6 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 209 316 66.1 2,287 7.24 82 17 4 18 100.0 254
    7 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 201 317 63.4 2,344 7.39 51 19 8 23 95.2 195
    8 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 312 462 67.5 3,590 7.77 80 22 13 22 94.9 299
    9 Matt Schaub, QB HOU 266 413 64.4 3,062 7.41 60 21 9 15 94.5 255
    10 Drew Brees, QB NO 304 492 61.8 3,674 7.47 80 31 16 22 92.1 306
    RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
    11 Josh Freeman, QB TB 217 388 55.9 3,003 7.74 95 23 8 17 92.1 250
    12 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 262 413 63.4 2,980 7.22 59 24 13 27 91.3 248
    13 Tony Romo, QB DAL 324 483 67.1 3,660 7.58 85 19 15 28 89.7 305
    14 Kevin Kolb, QB ARI 109 183 59.6 1,169 6.39 46 8 3 27 86.1 195
    15 Cam Newton, QB CAR 204 355 57.5 2,933 8.26 82 14 10 30 85.8 244 16 Eli Manning, QB NYG 259 427 60.7 3,170 7.42 80 16 11 14 85.3 264
    17 Carson Palmer, QB OAK 324 533 60.8 3,805 7.14 64 22 14 26 85.3 293
    18 Philip Rivers, QB SD 277 424 65.3 2,969 7.00 80 18 15 36 85.1 247
    19 Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB BUF 228 373 61.1 2,471 6.63 68 20 12 20 85.1 206
    20 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 252 426 59.2 3,038 7.13 54 15 8 29 85.0 253


    Just saying..................




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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    I did post the current stats. Your link just sorted them differently......just saying.




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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?

    ok what selective stat did you find where Newton is ahead of Flacco, INTs?
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    Re: Has RG3 changed your opinion of the Redskins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    ok what selective stat did you find where Newton is ahead of Flacco, INTs?
    Looks like it was QB rating. Their stats are pretty similar though. Same with Eli.




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