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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013



    If you think that Alex Smith would survive behind our O line throwing 9 routes you need to come out here to Arizona and line up at one of the medical marijuana dispensaries - and calm yourself down. Alex would need a concussion proof helmet the size of a beach ball.

    The Raven's problem is CAM not Joe.




    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    If you go back to complete ball controlled offense, and get Alex Smith, it would at least allow us to fix all our other issues on the Oline and on defense.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by rharris1986 View Post
    If you think that Alex Smith would survive behind our O line throwing 9 routes you need to come out here to Arizona and line up at one of the medical marijuana dispensaries - and calm yourself down. Alex would need a concussion proof helmet the size of a beach ball.

    The Raven's problem is CAM not Joe.
    I never even said anything close to that. But whatever. (The Alex Smith bit was a joke btw)




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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    certainly not arguing that hes flawed, just that his flaws seem to be magnified over the others in his tier do to him being "our" QB. All those listed have flaws, even the Elites have some. Im saying even as is you can win and he deserves to be in the discussion as a top 10 QB with those guys.
    Flaws sure. But the "wtf performance swings" that he continues to generate have been alarming. But no matter...if his flaws are "tolerable" to the FO then the proper course of action is 1) new OC/system, and 2) construct a formidable OL in front of him (trades, Draft or FA). We've seen Joe and the current OL put up 30+ in 1/3 of 2012. I'm thinking Joe and a better OL can do it all damn season.
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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Flaws sure. But the "wtf performance swings" that he continues to generate have been alarming. But no matter...if his flaws are "tolerable" to the FO then the proper course of action is 1) new OC/system, and 2) construct a formidable OL in front of him (trades, Draft or FA). We've seen Joe and the current OL put up 30+ in 1/3 of 2012. I'm thinking Joe and a better OL can do it all damn season.
    who would you say is the most accurate QB in the league? Aaron Rodgers most likely? He hasnt looked anywhere near ELite with his OL getting pushed back into him every play. Throws you know he typically makes are now sailing high, behind, short. Obviously that doesnt explain Flaccos throws that are off when he does have time but thats also comparing him to the most accurate qb in the league, which he is not. I think the WTF games can be attributed to a number of things some in his control some out of it.
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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    who would you say is the most accurate QB in the league? Aaron Rodgers most likely? He hasnt looked anywhere near ELite with his OL getting pushed back into him every play. Throws you know he typically makes are now sailing high, behind, short. Obviously that doesnt explain Flaccos throws that are off when he does have time but thats also comparing him to the most accurate qb in the league, which he is not. I think the WTF games can be attributed to a number of things some in his control some out of it.
    Tim Tebow is the most accurate QB in the league, bar none.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Tim Tebow is the most accurate QB in the league, bar none.
    Ryan Lindley.
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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    When comparing Joe to other QBs, they have flaws as well. For example, Joe has nothing on Philip Rivers and Jay Cutler when it comes to bad decision making. Neither Cutler nor Vick could hold a candle to Joe's durability. Smith and Ryan can't make all of the throws that Joe can.
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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Cap situation sounds really grim. Over $106 million of a $120 million cap is already committed and that's before draft picks, RFAs, ERFAs. It also doesn't include Ed Reed whose contract expires and from a cap standpoint alone can't be offered anywhere close to what he wants. Throw in the $14+ million of a franchise tag number for Flacco and this team isn't bringing even a mid-level free agent. We better have one hell of a draft because those players are going to see the field a lot in 2013.
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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by alienrace View Post
    Post of the year. Finally some sense.

    Good lord, Flacco isn't going anywhere, and neither is Harbaugh.

    This board has gotten ridiculous. There's more handwringing going on here than in a nun's laundromat. Gawd, how do you people enjoy sports?
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Can anyone think of a situation like this in the past, with ANY team, where you had an OC that might/seems to/ probably does, suck, and a QB that might/seems to/ probably does, have unutilized talent, and BOTH there contracts were up for renewing?

    I can't think of any. I really think this is a unique situation. Everyone agrees it's one or the other. It just seems more safe to try another OC then QB.

    Hell, the OC could go somewhere else and win a Superbowl, and no one would think much of it, probably including the media. But by god if the QB does that, we'd really look stupid as a franchise.

    It just seems like the easy call is to dump the OC.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderraven View Post
    Alex Smith, 70% completion percentage is a possiblity. Would like Vick as well his days are numbered in Philly. Anyone but Flacco, tying up the cap and plays worse as the season progresses. Joe isn't going to get it done.
    a guy that was a total and com-plete BUST for 6 or 7 years, an UNMITIGATED DISASTER, that under a new coach finally became PASSABLE, yet got leapfrogged by an athletic 2nd year, 2nd round pick due to injury.... wow. Alex Smith can't hold Flacco's jock, sorry.




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    Not understanding the Smith talk at all.
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