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    SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013



    From none other than our own Brian McFarland, aka B'more-Ravor

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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by TL24x7 View Post
    From none other than our own Brian McFarland, aka B'more-Ravor

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    I doubt Flacco will be a Raven next year. Time to move on.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderraven View Post
    I doubt Flacco will be a Raven next year. Time to move on.
    And replace him with whom exactly?




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06 View Post
    And replace him with whom exactly?
    Alex Smith, 70% completion percentage is a possiblity. Would like Vick as well his days are numbered in Philly. Anyone but Flacco, tying up the cap and plays worse as the season progresses. Joe isn't going to get it done.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderraven View Post
    Alex Smith, 70% completion percentage is a possiblity. Would like Vick as well his days are numbered in Philly. Anyone but Flacco, tying up the cap and plays worse as the season progresses. Joe isn't going to get it done.
    LOL




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by pslholder96 View Post
    LOL
    I'm absolutely fine with Joe Flacco being the Ravens QB... as long as it's at the right price.

    You may LOL at Boulderraven (and actually, I want nothing to do with Vick either), but consider this: would you rather have Flacco as the Raven QB on a $100 M contract, or Smith as Raven QB at, say, $70 M?

    Given those numbers, and considering that I want the Ravens to be able to keep signing other good players... that Smith deal does not look bad in context. I'm no cap expert, but I think that Smith is probably close enough to Flacco that cap savings of that magnitude would benefit the team overall more than if that money went straight into Flacco's coffers.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderraven View Post
    Alex Smith, 70% completion percentage is a possiblity. Would like Vick as well his days are numbered in Philly. Anyone but Flacco, tying up the cap and plays worse as the season progresses. Joe isn't going to get it done.
    a guy that was a total and com-plete BUST for 6 or 7 years, an UNMITIGATED DISASTER, that under a new coach finally became PASSABLE, yet got leapfrogged by an athletic 2nd year, 2nd round pick due to injury.... wow. Alex Smith can't hold Flacco's jock, sorry.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderraven View Post
    I doubt Flacco will be a Raven next year. Time to move on.
    Is that what you want and if so who would you replace him with?




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Honestly, the way I'm seeing it, this season, either Cam is going to be gone or Flacco is going to be gone. We infused our offense with a huge amount of talent, and we're still coming up short. The question is, who does the FO think is at fault? No one is going to drop their OC in the middle of the season, because its suicidal. However, I'm of the opinion that change is coming this offseason in one way or another. There just isn't any excuses left.

    So which way will the Ravens swing? I think Flacco gets a nice contract that he doesn't currently deserve, but could possibly under a different offensive system, and the Ravens try and see what they can make happen. Or possibly, I'm just a dreamer.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by CptJesus View Post
    I think Flacco gets a nice contract that he doesn't currently deserve, but could possibly under a different offensive system, and the Ravens try and see what they can make happen. Or possibly, I'm just a dreamer.
    I like this dream. I also agree with your logic.
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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    Assumption #1: Cammie is not re-up'd in 2013
    Assumption #2: Hire an innovative and creative OC
    Assumption #3: Stevie calibrates Harbs with the message: Do no harm to the offense...and oh by the way, you're on notice
    Assumption #4: Tag Joe

    Hypothesis: Joe may become a major statistical, top-8 QB at the end of the 2013 campaign.

    Method #1: Design an offensive scheme around Joe's strengths
    Method #2: Optimize the new offense (by any means: trade, inexpensive FAs and the Draft) while only addressing one of two critical defensive deficiencies; and realize that dumping some salary will be necessary for a full Offense Optimization. This also includes acquiring a 3rd QB before August begins.


    So what I think I'm trying to say here is that if we tag #5 then the 2013 season is essentially a $14M closed laboratory experiment in which just about everything should be focused on generating the best outcome (positive or negative) possible. I think it pretty much has to be that way or you are wasting;
    1) $14M, plus...
    2) the monetary and competitive value of the players cut or not re-signed (Ray, Ed, Boldin, Jacoby, Leach (yeah him...who knows what the new OC is going to want to do)), plus...
    3) there's an enormous opportunity cost of performing a half-assed experiment, not getting the best outcome possible, and parting ways with Joe in 2014 only to see him take some other franchise to the 2-3 SBs over the next 6-7 years.

    Either way...via the tag or a long-term deal, I think we're looking at a "bet the franchise" decision with Joe, and the FO owes it to him, the locker room and fans to set him up for maximum success.




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    Re: SALARY CAP ANALYSIS: Signs point to franchise tag for Flacco in 2013

    From the article:

    but it’s questionable whether he deserves to be part of the $100M club, which includes QBs like Michael Vick (6 years/$100M/32M guaranteed), Philip Rivers (7 years/$98.5M/$38M guaranteed) and Eli Manning (7 years/$107M/$35M guaranteed).
    Unfortunately for the Ravens, it's not Joe's fault Michael Vick and Philip Rivers have been vastly overpaid. And Michael Vick moreso than Rivers. Joe Flacco is, and has been, better than Michael Vick at almost any point in Vick's career, minus the rushing yards which really is all Vick has. The Eagles screwed themselves and are paying the price for it.

    I've said in another thread they aren't going to pay Joe on his past stats. They are going to pay him on what they think he can do to get them to win a SuperBowl. And like it or not, last year he put the team in position to do just that. So if they believe he is going to do that again, they are going to pay him based on that.

    The other unfortunate part is that if the Ravens go back to the playoffs and get past the first round, I think that almost guarantees Cam Cameron will be back too. How can you fire the OC of a team that has made the playoffs 5 years in a row? And that's not my thinking, I want him gone. But Harbaugh, and I bet Ozzie and Bisciotti think that way. And if they make it deep in the playoffs, they will forget about the Steelers game.

    This is just what I believe the reality is. $100 million? No. But Rivers money? If Philip Rivers can get $98 million to be overrated and flame out every year, it fair that Joe should get something close to that for being a playoff QB who can win games on the road.




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